tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post1210465865040942630..comments2024-03-16T05:00:38.826-04:00Comments on Egnorance: Population control: "Destroying the Village"mregnorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-4160694978244768042012-12-04T02:40:32.891-05:002012-12-04T02:40:32.891-05:00Confirmation bias. Ha. That's exactly what I w...Confirmation bias. Ha. That's exactly what I would call Anonymous' predicament. He believes only what he already thinks to be true and laughs off the rest. A reliable source is one that tells him he is right. An unreliable source is one that tells him he is wrong. He can dismiss this entire essay with the wave of a hand because he doesn't care to believe it. <br /><br />TRISHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-35641155921307718122012-12-03T20:17:44.055-05:002012-12-03T20:17:44.055-05:00Francisca,
Journalists might get things wrong, or...Francisca,<br /><br />Journalists might get things wrong, or even make things up? Hardly surprising.<br /><br />Actually, as has been previously noted, she hadn't been denied a termination. She had a spontaneous abortion, which started off as a threatened abortion, which then became inevitable and finally became a septic abortion, which eventually was the cause of death.<br /><br />What she was denied was an early D & C, to remove the products of conception, including the fetus, early. Which wasn't absolutely necessary, until it became septic.<br /><br />Women have been having spontaneous abortions, without complications and without surgery, for many, many years. And surgery does have complications, including intrauterine adhesions, complicating future pregnancies.<br /><br />Two added points; medical records may not actually be 100% complete. We'd like them to be, but it's not a 'given'. The notes don't indicate that the patient requested a certain line of treatment, but it doesn't exclude it. Secondly, people's memories of what they're told is often unreliable. The doctors and nurses managing the medical care might have told the patient's husband one thing, and under the stress and worry, he might have heard and remembered something completely different.bachfiendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14752055891882312204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-1757539872902985832012-12-03T19:44:41.023-05:002012-12-03T19:44:41.023-05:00Francisca,
Thanks. A great reference. Francisca,<br /><br />Thanks. A great reference. mregnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-86476508427897214222012-12-03T16:45:57.376-05:002012-12-03T16:45:57.376-05:00Good article on previous topic the blogger posted ...Good article on previous topic the blogger posted about.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/irish-times-reporter-admits-woman-who-activists-claim-died-because-she-was-denied-abortion-may-not-have-requested-one-before-she-died/" rel="nofollow"><br />This has been the most cynical and deplorable exploitation of a tragedy that I have ever witnessed in my lifetime.</a><br /><br />--Francisca S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-24556515153247325482012-12-03T16:25:31.118-05:002012-12-03T16:25:31.118-05:00Go ahead and debunk this mindless drivel.
Easily....<i>Go ahead and debunk this mindless drivel.</i><br /><br />Easily. The contortions that one has to go through to call voluntary programs "involuntary" are so ludicrous that they make the entirety of both Zubrin's piece and Egnor's drooling commentary on it complete idiocy.<br /><br />But because it aligns with your ideological biases, you didn't notice this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-47954972088043079632012-12-03T16:23:30.551-05:002012-12-03T16:23:30.551-05:00When you do something in exchange for money or ben...When you do something in exchange for money or benefits, it is voluntary. But when someone else does something in exchange for money or benefits it isn't.<br /><br />Nice double standard you have there regarding "voluntary". perhaps it is because you are trying to engage in contorted pretzel logic to define what were voluntary programs involuntary because that suits the ideological screed you prefer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-48186589117671346582012-12-03T16:13:37.736-05:002012-12-03T16:13:37.736-05:00JQ, I know giving advice to a stranger is presumpt...JQ, I know giving advice to a stranger is presumptuous, but don't bother arguing with the trolls. I don't know you, but I do know them. They've been around almost three decades and were the single ruination of Usenet, a place that once had some serious online discussion.<br /><br />However, Troll Mocking is fine sport, and it benefits the troll by providing accurate feedback. It's fun to do in the cold season or bad weather anytime.George Boggsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-65879284621418964372012-12-03T15:16:47.844-05:002012-12-03T15:16:47.844-05:00Go ahead and debunk this mindless drivel. It's...Go ahead and debunk this mindless drivel. It's so baseless it will quickly unravel. <br /><br />You have the strongest confirmation bias of any person I have ever encountered, Anonymous. Everything that confirms what you already believe is a reliable source, beyond question. Everything that contradicts what you believe is to be dismissed, not to be taken seriously, because after all, they're on the other side and therefore not to be trusted. Every person has a slight confirmation bias but yours is abnormally strong. <br /><br />If you can't change your mind, are you sure you still have one?<br /><br />JQAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-85474555861589845362012-12-03T15:13:18.116-05:002012-12-03T15:13:18.116-05:00I work voluntarily to support myself.
Good point...I work voluntarily to support myself. <br /><br />Good point though. I guess we can go around sterilizing native women on reservations with threats that if they don't comply their welfare will be taken from them, and that's voluntary. <br /><br />JQAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-28638407425816231442012-12-03T15:01:13.961-05:002012-12-03T15:01:13.961-05:00Egnor posted thoughtful commentary on an article h...<i>Egnor posted thoughtful commentary on an article he read that was factual and documented.</i><br /><br />Actually, he posted a ludicrous screed about and article that was itself a ludicrous screed. But don't let that get in your way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-79817724293017085142012-12-03T15:00:16.465-05:002012-12-03T15:00:16.465-05:00That kind of voluntary population control isn'...<i>That kind of voluntary population control isn't really voluntary at all.</i><br /><br />So, working to get money is something you don't do voluntarily?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-10755513460134504172012-12-03T14:58:43.665-05:002012-12-03T14:58:43.665-05:00Egnor posted thoughtful commentary on an article h...Egnor posted thoughtful commentary on an article he read that was factual and documented. And you dismiss it as tin foil hat stuff. <br /><br />Pooh-poohing is not going to work here. The US government has done some pretty horrible things. I bet you'd believe every word of this essay if it had been written by Noam Chomsky.<br /><br />JQAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-27556039690688124162012-12-03T14:53:37.453-05:002012-12-03T14:53:37.453-05:00Nixon wasn't particularly conservative. He is ...Nixon wasn't particularly conservative. He is the father of the EPA, the Endangered Species List, and federal affirmative action programs. But it's silly to get into the left-versus-right blame game. This sort of eugenic nightmare is wrong, no matter who does it. <br /><br />Last week there was a rousing debate on this blog about population control programs. A certain segment of commenters seemed to think they were fine as long as they were voluntary. <br /><br />If you really examine how these programs are carried out in practice you will see that voluntary means that the targeted population succumbs to bribes and coercion. That kind of voluntary population control isn't really voluntary at all.<br /><br />JQAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-40576128172518989572012-12-03T14:03:41.675-05:002012-12-03T14:03:41.675-05:00Oh look, Michael Egnor forgot his tin foil hat. Ag...Oh look, Michael Egnor forgot his tin foil hat. Again.Black helicopter population-controlling abortionist puppy-raping Darwinist atheistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-51620722453362481422012-12-03T12:36:35.616-05:002012-12-03T12:36:35.616-05:00This post relates to the thing I was talking about...This post relates to the thing I was talking about before with the Native American women being strong-armed into sterilization. It was one of the quote-unquote voluntary birth control initiatives. <br /><br />I expected more comments on this post.<br /><br />JQAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-76533982904383279012012-12-03T08:50:50.419-05:002012-12-03T08:50:50.419-05:00I propose a version of the Buffett Rule.
If you&#...I propose a version of the Buffett Rule.<br /><br />If you've not heard of the Buffett Rule, it's a proposed regulation requiring that that Warren Buffett refrain from publicly advocating higher taxes on anyone (including his competitors) until he settles his own delinquent tax bill ($366M) with the US government. (<i>NYT Dealbook</i>, 3/26/12).<br /><br />A similar Rule could apply to population mavens... Let's call it the Ehrlich Rule.<br /><br />The Eherlich Rule would require that aspiring mass murderers remain publicly silent about their plans until they have sacrificed themselves according to the requirements of their particular plan (e.g., malaria, euthanasia, cholera, etc). Post-sacrifice, a posthumous account of their nobility and highmindedness can be published and distributed, thus allowing them the opportunity for moral preening without the concomitant danger of royalty-induced greed and avarice.George Boggsnoreply@blogger.com