tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post2248540030193325064..comments2024-03-16T05:00:38.826-04:00Comments on Egnorance: Victor Davis Hanson on our sick societymregnorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-37031313890914867772011-08-25T13:20:16.705-04:002011-08-25T13:20:16.705-04:00hahahaha ... You people really don't get what ...hahahaha ... You people really don't get what meant XD.<br /><br />Tell me ladies and gentlemen... how many of you live in a Third world Nation ???? <br /><br />Crime rate must be very small where I live, but it is steal a very insecure city. What I am pointing to, is that crime rates can't be used to conclude things like peacefulness. Which sometimes people do. Because the less chance you got to be a victim of a crime more peaceful the world is. But that is not necessarily so. It depends on how much of the society youare looking at.Edwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-76236819245128990322011-08-25T00:17:44.375-04:002011-08-25T00:17:44.375-04:00"More chances of bigger gangs, more places co..."More chances of bigger gangs, more places controlled by criminals... This shit happen people. That is why I say it is misleading, because the ratio might trick us."<br /><br />I think it's only tricking you Edward.dashdothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06301869898820271447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-38856899407511744502011-08-24T23:18:25.395-04:002011-08-24T23:18:25.395-04:00You see, I do not disagree with you that we have l...You see, I do not disagree with you that we have less chance of being kill... FOR WESTERN SOCIETY countries.<br /><br />I dunno if the rule works for all scenarios in the world, but coming back to what I meant.<br /><br />It is just that, crime rates can mislead us. For instance, imagine a nation with 100.000 peopla and 100 crimes in the entire nation. Pretty damn peaceful place.<br /><br />in 10 years the population goes from 100.000 to 200.000 and crimes rises for 195 crimes. Now in this model, the crime RATE HAS GONE DOWN. It does make the society saver let's say, but the crime is going up. <br /><br />More chances of bigger gangs, more places controlled by criminals... This shit happen people. That is why I say it is misleading, because the ratio might trick us.Edwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-1048009229754918572011-08-24T22:17:00.692-04:002011-08-24T22:17:00.692-04:00Edward, the data isn't misleading at all. It ...Edward, the data isn't misleading at all. It really is true that we have less chance of dying by violence today than at pretty much any point in human history. So the impression given by the anti-crime fear mongers is just a ploy to scare people into voting for tough-sounding conservatives. It's up to you which source you believe - the actual data or the pitch men on Fox News.<br /><br />-----------<br /><br />Sarcasm befuddles you at every turn, eh CrusaderREX.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-47689572222538495602011-08-24T17:36:30.963-04:002011-08-24T17:36:30.963-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.bachfiendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14752055891882312204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-42512204539943150922011-08-24T11:58:44.035-04:002011-08-24T11:58:44.035-04:00Anon... I am explaining the data and how it might ...Anon... I am explaining the data and how it might be misleading.<br /><br />THe chances of you dying could be the same as in 10 years ago, or maybe higher depending on thew place you live.<br /><br />BY the way ... I never said that the low crime rate is good or bad what the heck you talking about hahahhaha.<br /><br />Crime rates can be misleading, that is all.Edwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-1293121460281451192011-08-24T07:25:57.183-04:002011-08-24T07:25:57.183-04:00Bach,
You wrote:
" was absolutely confident w...Bach,<br />You wrote:<br />" was absolutely confident we'd find no extrasolar planets-and we're up to hundreds already- I'd be happy finding bacteria on Mars or Europa"<br />We have found wobbles we suspect are extra solar planets, and I think we actually have imagery for a few....so sure. Neat stuff! As far as the bacteria goes, me too. I would be pleased as well. Such a discovery would have literally no bearing in my metaphysical and religious positions (how could it?) except maybe to confirm a few ideas I have... But sure that would be fascinating. ETI is a different matter. It is as elusive as a the atomist/materialist holy grail: 'the God particle'. Neither presents itself in such a way as to be useful to the materialists...<br />What to do when they show up and ask about God? (as they do in the mythology CONSTANTLY) What about when they show up and decry materialism and atheism? What then? Well there is no WHEN/THEN is there? Only 'if'.<br />So any such speculation is SCIFI (even if my scifi is based on mythology, not comics) and as such is NOT worthy of tax funding.<br /><br />Anon wrote:<br />"It provokes such fond visions of those good old days when objective morality was still in force."<br /><br />It still is a 'force'. It is objective.<br />Logic evades you at every turn, eh Anon?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-47845736240592865892011-08-24T06:48:14.852-04:002011-08-24T06:48:14.852-04:00Edward said: "crime rates are number of crime...Edward said: "crime rates are number of crimes per numberpf people. MORE PEOPLE less crime rate"<br /><br />Absolutely correct, Edward. In other words, on average we are less likely today to die by violence than in any decade in history. Isn't that terrible!? Oh for the good old days.<br /><br />As for the degradation of society - I was just flipping through an online edition of the "Malleus Maleficarum". It provokes such fond visions of those good old days when objective morality was still in force.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-3420175478609209412011-08-23T17:30:01.722-04:002011-08-23T17:30:01.722-04:00CrusadeRex,
Most of this thread is speculation. ...CrusadeRex,<br /><br />Most of this thread is speculation. We don't know if the perpetrator's family is as dysfunctional as Michael implies. For all we know, it could have been a completely normal family with a son who was by nature 'bad'.<br /><br />Michael rejects the probability of ETIs somewhere in the Universe based on the absence of evidence (heck, I'd be extremely surprised if we found proof in my lifetime, I was absolutely confident we'd find no extrasolar planets-and we're up to hundreds already- I'd be happy finding bacteria on Mars or Europa), but writes an entire thread with very little information, all third and fourth hand.bachfiendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14752055891882312204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-88487133884966434252011-08-23T11:00:56.841-04:002011-08-23T11:00:56.841-04:00Bach,
You wrote:
"The line of the graph finis...Bach,<br />You wrote:<br />"The line of the graph finishes well before 2050. 2050 is only included on the x-axis for appearance sake."<br />Appearances are everything when working in speculation with baseless statistics based on revisionist interpretations of history. Appearance is ALL that graph has. <br />But you're correct. No need for a Higgs-Boson generator (phew!)... <br />We'll do fine with just an oracular pronoid with 'progressive' (ie internationalist) political agenda, and WITHOUT the balls/spine (gender equality) to respond to his critics.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-78277922978815998922011-08-23T09:49:30.432-04:002011-08-23T09:49:30.432-04:00populational boom .... crime rates are number of c...populational boom .... crime rates are number of crimes per numberpf people. MORE PEOPLE less crime rate.Edwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-23438888630725664612011-08-23T07:44:16.484-04:002011-08-23T07:44:16.484-04:00CrusadeRex,
The line of the graph finishes well b...CrusadeRex,<br /><br />The line of the graph finishes well before 2050. 2050 is only included on the x-axis for appearance sake.bachfiendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14752055891882312204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-58002391075443720752011-08-23T07:30:15.253-04:002011-08-23T07:30:15.253-04:00Oleg,
How did they get the data for 2050? Maybe a ...Oleg,<br />How did they get the data for 2050? Maybe a Higgs Boson torsion field generator device? A protoplasmic mind jelly? or maybe a graviton beam enhancer? <br />The pronoids who publish that stuff must have some real Hari Seldon style autism happening.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-76098589192905664962011-08-23T07:20:51.235-04:002011-08-23T07:20:51.235-04:00Here are some data: Long-term trends in homicide r...Here are some data: <a href="http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/06/long-term-trend-in-homicide-rates.html" rel="nofollow">Long-term trends in homicide rates in the US</a>. <br /><br />Thoughts?oleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11644793385433232819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-70194753987555143352011-08-23T06:57:05.735-04:002011-08-23T06:57:05.735-04:00Dr Egnor,
It clearly IS diabolical.Dr Egnor,<br />It clearly IS diabolical.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.com