tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post2629048934423662272..comments2024-03-16T05:00:38.826-04:00Comments on Egnorance: "They are proclaiming increased confidence in their models as the discrepancies between their models and observations increase."mregnorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-74504366706105763122013-10-02T17:43:35.296-04:002013-10-02T17:43:35.296-04:00Nice try, draft dodger. The correlation coefficien...Nice try, draft dodger. The correlation coefficient (R) and the interpretation of R^2 as proportion variance explained doesn't hold for binary variables. I can see why a Big Tobacco gun for hire like Lindzen would use a misleading quantity like that, but what's in it for you?<br /><br />Read <a href="http://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.epidemiolog.net%2Fevolving%2FRelatingRiskFactorstoHealth.pdf&ei=pwRMUrOuOaO60QWg6YHoBQ&usg=AFQjCNF61fxZYbV-n2ZWsZuL1B890aqO_w&sig2=oClVMUBNBdtOV1AvMTaUXg&bvm=bv.53371865,d.d2k" rel="nofollow">this</a> to learn a bit more.troyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05136662027396943138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-32869218869589032842013-10-02T17:41:36.934-04:002013-10-02T17:41:36.934-04:00Well, look hoo got up on the wrong side of the bed...Well, look hoo got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning! :-)<br /><br /><br />Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan Navynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-14937764388917131262013-10-02T17:19:47.503-04:002013-10-02T17:19:47.503-04:00KW,
As usual you have everything upside down.
W...KW, <br /><br />As usual you have everything upside down. <br />What I describing is not 'conspiracy theory', it is done right out in the open. There is no secrecy, just very good PR. <br /><br />"[...]relies on the assumption that climate scientists are as greedy, self-centered, and immoral as the typical big money conservative. "<br />Reality does not rely on any sort of partisan interpretation of the facts. Big money funds big PR. Big money expects to be paid back with interest. Tie colour has nothing to do with it.<br />Get it? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-80314785355599289112013-10-02T17:03:08.911-04:002013-10-02T17:03:08.911-04:00If you have something to say on the subject of ent...If you have something to say on the subject of entropy, admiral, be my guest. Otherwise, get the fuck out. <br /><br />HooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-24702619804059493372013-10-02T16:37:34.041-04:002013-10-02T16:37:34.041-04:00That's very funny.That's very funny. mregnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-85693999220766394122013-10-02T14:35:23.964-04:002013-10-02T14:35:23.964-04:00Oh my heavens. I'm sorry, Egnor. This is just ...Oh my heavens. I'm sorry, Egnor. This is just too good!<br /><br />The Evil Republicans have made the National Park Service close down a park that receives no Federal funding:<br /><br /><i>The National Park Service has ordered the closure of a Virginia park that sits on federal land, even though the government provides no resources for its maintenance or operation...<br /><br />According to Anna Eberly, managing director of the farm, NPS sent law enforcement agents to the park on Tuesday evening to remove staff and volunteers from the property.<br /><br /><b>“You do have to wonder about the wisdom of an organization that would use staff they don’t have the money to pay to evict visitors from a park site that operates without costing them any money</b>,” she said.</i><br /><br />It's entropy, man.<br />Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan Navynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-38776941386552759752013-10-02T14:27:53.481-04:002013-10-02T14:27:53.481-04:00By the way, that proto-"Clarke and Dawes"...By the way, that proto-"Clarke and Dawes" routine was pretty good, guys. Not ready for primetime yet, but not bad.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM" rel="nofollow">This one's</a> better, though.Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan Navynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-69116772339350037892013-10-02T14:15:16.096-04:002013-10-02T14:15:16.096-04:00Hoots, if I have any questions I think you could a...Hoots, if I have any questions I think you could answer without Google, I'll get back to you.<br /><br />But I can always use the odd citation in a foreign language. Try Hungarian next time. It's more impressive than German.Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan Navynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-83975232989073086092013-10-02T13:34:34.005-04:002013-10-02T13:34:34.005-04:00The short story, KW, is that entropy isn't syn...The short story, KW, is that entropy isn't synonymous with disorder as seen by a human eye. That's an oversimplification often found in general physics textbooks. Sometimes macroscopic states with visible order have lower entropy than more disordered ones. <br /><br />Systems with gravity aren't the only example of that. A uniform fluid below its critical temperature separates into two components, liquid and gas. The resulting state has visibly more structure to it and more entropy than a uniform state.<br /><br />HooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-72048933208784248192013-10-02T12:42:33.372-04:002013-10-02T12:42:33.372-04:00Hoo, something about entropy has been bugging me. ...Hoo, something about entropy has been bugging me. As far as I can tell, all the places we see local decreases in entropy would not have happened without gravity. Without gravity there would no galaxies, stars, planets, or complex chemistry. How is it that the nearly uniform hot gas of the big bang had lower entropy than what we see today? Is it due to the increased volume caused by the expansion of space?<br /><br />-KW<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-54385062504525658832013-10-02T12:00:02.922-04:002013-10-02T12:00:02.922-04:00Don't hesitate to ask me about stat mech, admi...Don't hesitate to ask me about stat mech, admiral. It's never late to learn. <br /><br />HooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-59630250458546679092013-10-02T11:59:23.079-04:002013-10-02T11:59:23.079-04:00I hate to beat this drum, but it's so damn goo...I hate to beat this drum, but it's so damn good...<br /><br />Spies are defecting because of the GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN!!!<br /><br /><i>Taking the warnings about the impact of the partial government shutdown to new levels, Clapper suggested Wednesday during a Senate hearing that cash-strapped spies might be tempted to switch national loyalties. </i><br />--- FOXNewsAdm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan Navynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-67942181150043192872013-10-02T11:32:39.781-04:002013-10-02T11:32:39.781-04:00Off-topic, but fun: In the real world, some intere...Off-topic, but fun: In the real world, some interesting things are happening. Rep. Steven Palazzo’s office contacted the White House to permit WWII vets to visit the WWII Memorial during the GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN!<br /><br />The White House apparently refused.<br /><br /><i>Honor flight vets just knocked over the barriers at the WWII memorial to get inside, #shutdown or no. pic.twitter.com/T4bx8kvFYj<br /><br /> — Leo Shane III (@LeoShane) October 1, 2013</i><br /><br />Heh.<br /><br />Meanwhile, I just read the best description of the GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN I've seen:<br /><br />"AHHH THE GOVERNMENT IS SHUTTING DOWN GOD HELP US THIS IS WHAT THE BOOK OF REVELATION FORETOLD”<br />--- Matt Walsh<br /><br />Fill the bathub with water while you still can.<br /><br />Now, back to regularly scheduled programming...<br /><br />Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan Navynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-50896353752224777522013-10-02T11:16:34.467-04:002013-10-02T11:16:34.467-04:00So you say, Mr Troll.So you say, Mr Troll.Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan Navynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-84845084349863323182013-10-02T11:11:18.354-04:002013-10-02T11:11:18.354-04:00Yes, admiral, I know a thing or two about that. En...Yes, admiral, I know a thing or two about that. Enough to teach it at the graduate level at a major university.<br /><br />HooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-16202685989455852112013-10-02T10:55:22.521-04:002013-10-02T10:55:22.521-04:00And you would know about that, thinking as you do ...And you would know about that, thinking as you do that the orderliness of decks of playing cards "reduce[s] the entropy of the Universe".Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan Navynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-65240657431523324162013-10-02T10:52:14.382-04:002013-10-02T10:52:14.382-04:00It also refers to John Holdren, Steven Chu, and Ji...It also refers to John Holdren, Steven Chu, and Jim Hansen, among many others.<br /><br />In my view, we should all paint our roofs white and inflate on our tires.Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan Navynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-28004874476291210382013-10-02T10:45:41.248-04:002013-10-02T10:45:41.248-04:00Egnor: "If the oceans are a more effective he...Egnor: "If the oceans are a more effective heat sink, why are they not also a more effective heat source, and therefore why can't we consider attributing the warming in the late 20th century to release of stored ocean heat, rather than AGW?"<br /><br />Hint. It's the second law of thermodynamics, stupid! <br /><br />HooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-32392456503650016612013-10-02T10:43:41.176-04:002013-10-02T10:43:41.176-04:00Popeye, I assume that when you say "greedy, s...Popeye, I assume that when you say "greedy, self-centered, and immoral", you are referring to hyperwealthy individuals like Terry McAuliffe, John "Cambodia" Kerry, and the Kennedy clan.<br /><br />Anyway, to your rather ignorant point: no, climate scientists are not necessarily greedy and immoral because they seek funding. But anyone who has ever written a grant proposal knows that the process is far from apolitical. Basically, you don't know what you're talking about, but your callow naiveté is touching in a grown man.<br /><br />I hope Lindzen's speaking fees are $20K, or more. Hillary Clinton's are north of $200K, and at least Lindzen knows something worth listening to.Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan Navynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-33880080452016668712013-10-02T10:26:52.217-04:002013-10-02T10:26:52.217-04:00Let's begin by summarizing Lindzen's views...Let's begin by summarizing <a href="http://goo.gl/XIFG5d" rel="nofollow">Lindzen's views on climate change</a>: <br /><br /><i>Dr. Lindzen accepts the elementary tenets of climate science. He agrees that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, calling people who dispute that point "nutty." He agrees that the level of it is rising because of human activity and that this should warm the climate." However, he believes that decreasing tropical cirrus clouds in a warmer world will allow more longwave radiation to escape the atmosphere, counteracting the warming. Lindzen first published this "iris" theory in 2001, and offered more support in a 2009 paper, but today "most mainstream researchers consider Dr. Lindzen’s theory discredited" according to the Times article.[60] Dr. Lindzen acknowledged that the 2009 paper contained "some stupid mistakes" in his handling of the satellite data. "It was just embarrassing," he said in the Times interview. "The technical details of satellite measurements are really sort of grotesque."</i> <br /><br />The word <i>nutty</i> refers to most of the conservative commentators on this blog.<br /><br />HooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-46625824410932870562013-10-02T10:21:49.644-04:002013-10-02T10:21:49.644-04:00Your “follow the money” conspiracy theory relies o...Your “follow the money” conspiracy theory relies on the assumption that climate scientists are as greedy, self-centered, and immoral as the typical big money conservative. No wonder conservatives buy it.<br /><br />If you want to see the actual money conspiracy, ask Dr. Lindzen what his speaking fees are. I bet there’re 10-20K. I’m sure the CATO institute can help put you in touch with him.<br /><br />-KW<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-89495868444409137272013-10-02T10:06:09.730-04:002013-10-02T10:06:09.730-04:00@KW:
The ocean warming claimed and measured is su...@KW:<br /><br />The ocean warming claimed and measured is surface warming.<br /><br />The mysterious absence of climate warming for 17 years is now attributed by AGW hysterics to deep ocean warming, which is less understood and not nearly as well documented. <br /><br />It was not accounted for in any of the climate models,which got the climate warming egregiously wrong. <br /><br />If the deep oceans can unpredictably harbor heat that your models fail to capture, why can't it just as unpredictably release it, and thereby be responsible for the late 20th century climate warming, your models having failed to capture deep ocean cooling? <br /><br />This debate is about your models, which have conclusively been proven wrong. Let's move on and leave the repudiated science behind us. <br /><br /><br /><br />mregnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-12421650390850466182013-10-02T09:34:44.503-04:002013-10-02T09:34:44.503-04:00The oceans are warming. If they were the source he...The oceans are warming. If they were the source heating the atmosphere they would be cooling. If you don’t get that heat flows from warm to cold you certainly aren’t qualified to be commenting on global warming. Think before you speak.<br /><br />-KW<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-35039031234933268392013-10-02T09:08:10.630-04:002013-10-02T09:08:10.630-04:00@KW:
If the oceans are a more effective heat sink...@KW:<br /><br />If the oceans are a more effective heat sink, why are they not also a more effective heat source, and therefore why can't we consider attributing the warming in the late 20th century to release of stored ocean heat, rather than AGW?<br /><br />When you lie and lie, your lies get more complex, and it's harder to keep your arguments straight. megnornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-27621011252500575262013-10-02T08:55:36.419-04:002013-10-02T08:55:36.419-04:00Dr Egnor,
"Such reasoning is ubiquitous in ...Dr Egnor, <br /><br />"Such reasoning is ubiquitous in science."<br /> <br />Precisely! <br />Somebody has to pay for and/or benefit/profit from the (any) research. The easiest way to discover the real motives behind any given effort (in this case, 'scientific') is to 'follow the money'. <br />Once you have found the financial spigot ,discover that agency’s goal or agenda and it will all click together. You will begin to see who is using who for what and to what ultimate ends. <br />Who funds the climate science? What environment do they seek to generate by promoting the AGW theme and how do they seek to profit or come to (more) power by it? <br />These are the questions, if even considered as remote possibility, should give pause for thought. <br />The money trail should be followed and made public. The world should know who the people are who are paying to have this 'science' promoted every day, everywhere. The world should understand the motivation of the motivators. <br /><br />This point you make and that KW pathetically attempts to rebuke is perhaps the most profound in this conversation. <br />Follow the money. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.com