tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post3084975893958382732..comments2024-03-16T05:00:38.826-04:00Comments on Egnorance: "I'm personally opposed to abortion, but..."mregnorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-56242887271866219142012-11-02T16:30:39.974-04:002012-11-02T16:30:39.974-04:00I can't speak for everyone else, Mr. Egnor, bu...I can't speak for everyone else, Mr. Egnor, but for myself, you repeatedly commit the fallacy of assuming that since I criticize one position or group, I must belong to the opposite position or group. On abortion I think both sides have one very powerful argument along with a lot of bad ones. The general right to life of each human being is a very powerful argument, and the right to control one's own body is also a very powerful argument. I honestly don't know how to resolve those conflicting rights. But as your post and innumerable other examples make clear, the pro-life movement as a whole has as its real goal seeking to control female sexuality for its own sake. This can easily be seen in the inconsistency of their rhetoric. If abortion is murder, then those who willingly participate in that act are murderers. You continue to try and evade this simple truth by pretending it's somehow a strawman, which of course it is not. It would be a strawman if I had claimed this was your position. I am only pointing out the hypocrisy and inconsistency of it not being your position, however. Hence, it is not a strawman. <br /><br />BooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-59274450247169063642012-11-02T16:23:47.383-04:002012-11-02T16:23:47.383-04:00Asked and answered before, Egnor. IMO, sex-selecti...Asked and answered before, Egnor. IMO, sex-selective abortion should be illegal because it may bias the sex ratio, which may cause unhappiness in people unable to find a mate. troyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05136662027396943138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-80292118138031974972012-11-02T13:47:12.724-04:002012-11-02T13:47:12.724-04:00Ad hominem isn't an argument, troy.
Address t...Ad hominem isn't an argument, troy.<br /><br />Address the issues I've raised. mregnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-61044511447139574692012-11-02T12:44:47.882-04:002012-11-02T12:44:47.882-04:00Right. You pro-aborts have such respect for women ...Right. You pro-aborts have such respect for women (Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Bob Menendez). <br /><br />You've killed about 25 million little girls since 1973, and your abortion ideology has left 100 million women "missing" in Asia.<br /><br />Abortion culture is responsible for the most horrendous femicide in history. <br /><br />Aborting children, and selectively girls, is tha anthesis of respect for women. <br /><br />Tell me, do you believe sex-selective abortion is moral? Should it be legal?mregnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-1921321890298662722012-11-02T12:04:41.800-04:002012-11-02T12:04:41.800-04:00In pro lifer's world, the menz still get to ha...In pro lifer's world, the menz still get to have their mistresses and prostitutes, so it's much more about control of women. If women can't control their reproductive health, then it's much easier to keep us in the house. Have you heard of those creepy psuedo-incestuous "Purity Balls"? The girls' dads literally get a key to their sexuality which they are supposed to give to their husbands when they hand over control of their women to them. The boy versions of Purity balls, meanwhile, are called Integrity Balls, wherein boys, instead of vowing to remain pure themselves, vow not to soil other men's property (aka women). The flip side of that message, of course, is that once a girl is soiled, it's open season.<br /><br />BooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-3698705260904618252012-11-01T23:19:10.333-04:002012-11-01T23:19:10.333-04:00Mike,
You're spot on. Abolition is the answer...Mike, <br />You're spot on. Abolition is the answer. Once it happens in one region, it will catch on like a wildfire. Shame will be the fuel for some, genuine concern for life for others. <br /><br />I have to add the first comment on this thread is utterly disgusting dehumanizing filth. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-49151603561397063962012-11-01T17:43:12.252-04:002012-11-01T17:43:12.252-04:00I believe it’s about more than controlling women. ...I believe it’s about more than controlling women. I think the pro-lifers can’t stand the thought of people enjoying promiscuous consequence free sex, because for them consequential sex is the only kind that can be enjoyed without guilt, shame, and the prospect of eternal damnation. The availability of birth control and abortion makes sinful sex to temptingly easy.<br /><br />Although considering Republican conventions draw twice the number of hookers compared to Democratic conventions, I would have to agree that controlling women is the primary reason for their position.<br /><br />-KW<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-39636660245917407622012-11-01T17:42:28.620-04:002012-11-01T17:42:28.620-04:00Mike, if you simply took a moment to look up the d...Mike, if you simply took a moment to look up the definition of Homicide you would see that you are wrong. You can’t simply redefine word as necessary to make your argument correct.<br /><br />-KW<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-15995747110116173112012-11-01T17:37:50.302-04:002012-11-01T17:37:50.302-04:00Egnor:
Most pro-life advocates would not assign a...Egnor:<br /><br /><i>Most pro-life advocates would not assign a high level of culpability to a woman who had an abortion-- she likely does not fully understand her act.</i><br /><br />The silly woman doesn't understand. Jesus, how much more mysoginist can you get? If you were honest (which you obviously aren't), you would demand the lawful penalty for first degree murder, including the death penalty.troyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05136662027396943138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-59053729851532502752012-11-01T16:49:17.840-04:002012-11-01T16:49:17.840-04:00Illegal homicide is the unlawful killing of a pers...Illegal homicide is the unlawful killing of a person.<br /><br />Legal homicide is lawful killing.<br /><br />Homicide means killing a person, irrespective of legality. <br /><br />The real issue here is that you are trying to portray pro-live folks as vindictive brutes who want to imprison women for having abortions.<br /><br />You're out of luck. We don't advocate that. We do advocate punishing abortionists, and protecting both mothers and their children. <br /><br />We're not going to help you build your strawmen. mregnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-45338814657600803442012-11-01T16:22:28.563-04:002012-11-01T16:22:28.563-04:00Homicide is killing a human being (homi and cide)....<i>Homicide is killing a human being (homi and cide).</i><br /><br />No, it isn't. Homicide, as the law defines it, is the unlawful killing of another person. Hence, war is not homicide. Capital punishment is not homicide. Accidental killing is not homicide.<br /><br />And since aborting a fetus isn't illegal (and it isn't killing a person), it isn't homicide either.<br /><br />Try again dipshit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-54975046469453423132012-11-01T15:41:27.416-04:002012-11-01T15:41:27.416-04:00Homicide is killing a human being (homi and cide)....Homicide is killing a human being (homi and cide). War is homicide, self-defense killing is homicide, capital punishment is homicide,suicide is homicide, accidental killing is homicide, murder is homicide. <br /><br />Each type of killing involves a characteristic culpability of the person doing the killing. <br /><br />The law recognizes the different kinds of culpability, from none to very severe.<br /><br />Most pro-life advocates would not assign a high level of culpability to a woman who had an abortion-- she likely does not fully understand her act. <br /><br />For the abortionist making money from it, it is another matter. mregnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-20928955953403865722012-11-01T15:12:57.350-04:002012-11-01T15:12:57.350-04:00So are there any other circumstances where someone...<i>So are there any other circumstances where someone of sound mind who willingly participates in a homicide should not be punished?</i><br /><br />Sure. The legal doctrine of necessity allows for someone to kill someone else under certain circumstances.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-82834828548807625512012-11-01T15:01:03.879-04:002012-11-01T15:01:03.879-04:00So are there any other circumstances where someone...So are there any other circumstances where someone of sound mind who willingly participates in a homicide should not be punished?<br /><br />Boo<br /><br />PS If you can't think of any feel free to cuss me out again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-74992047104123485012012-11-01T14:43:41.767-04:002012-11-01T14:43:41.767-04:00Abortion is homicide, but there are different degr...Abortion is homicide, but there are different degrees of culpability. <br /><br />Severe punishment of the woman seeking the abortion has never been the goal of the pro-life movement. <br /><br />Punishment of the abortionist is another matter. mregnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-65610054791314149972012-11-01T14:10:15.300-04:002012-11-01T14:10:15.300-04:00No worries ladies, especially you ladies of means,...No worries ladies, especially you ladies of means, if Egnor gets his way you can simply travel to one of the many abortion clinics sure to pop up just across our borders. Its ok, we know you are under great duress.<br /><br />-KWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-87697666156960034822012-11-01T12:59:33.458-04:002012-11-01T12:59:33.458-04:00So if I understand you correctly, those who intent...So if I understand you correctly, those who intentionally take an innocent life while under stressful circumstances should not be punished?<br /><br />BooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-1700703040542258722012-11-01T12:38:50.754-04:002012-11-01T12:38:50.754-04:00I'm starting to suspect that you've had a ...I'm starting to suspect that you've had a couple of your rape-fetuses aborted and it pisses you off that your victims weren't forced to carry them to term.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com