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And I am sorry to say this, really I am, that gun crime involving banned fire arms HAS been rising since the totl ban was inforced, It also is poignant that if some-one wants to commit a lethal act......there are countless items that will never be banned that will do far more serious damage, murder and acts of pure terror than guns. Take the idiots who use cars as weapons and methods of crime, at least gun law can be managed, background checks, periodic checks, licences, clubs etc etc.......The dvla dont do them, tesco's knife sales do not do them, are these silly enough comparisons for you? probably? its a shame its true though hey?<br /><br />who!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-937877043183830652012-12-31T19:23:26.616-05:002012-12-31T19:23:26.616-05:00Hoo,
I'm looking at the table on page 5 again...Hoo,<br /><br />I'm looking at the table on page 5 again. Yes, gun crime is slightly lower than in 1998, but almost exactly the same as in 1997, the year Britain decided to go full throttle with gun control. Also, 2010/2011 was higher than it was in 1988. <br /><br />I see that I made a typo above. I wrote: <i>They are now approximately equal to the rate Britain saw in 1997, but still higher than it saw in 1998. </i> That should have been 1988, not 1998. I'm using those two years as baselines because they mark the passage of major gun control legislation. <br /><br />Gun crime in 2010/2011 is approximately equal to that which occurred in 1997, after steadily climbing for six years to unseen heights. It's now in the decline again, which is good news for sure, but can we really give the credit to gun control? Keep in mind that on the decline does not mean that gun crime is low, by British standards. Gun crime in 2010/2011 Britain is still much higher than gun crime in the 60's, 70's, or 80's, before the two major gun control statutes. <br /><br />Gun crime before gun control was lower than gun crime after gun control. That's what the chart says, the one you provided. It may be in decline now, but it's been sixteen and twenty-five years respectively since the major statutes were passed. In the meantime, gun crime spiked, so the bad numbers of today look good in comparison. <br /><br />Britain is on the downward slope of a gun crime wave that followed two major gun control initiatives, and the conclusion you draw is that it must have worked because we're on the downward slope. <br /><br />BenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-29181055890247158192012-12-31T18:40:04.363-05:002012-12-31T18:40:04.363-05:00Mr. Ben,
You are mistaken. The number of crimes c...Mr. Ben,<br /><br />You are mistaken. The number of crimes committed with a firearm in the UK in 2010/11 is the lowest since 1991. It is lower than it was in 1998. See Table 2 on p. 12. <br /><br />You may call the gun control in the UK `pathetic' if you wish, but a direct comparison with the US paints a stark contrast. Look at the number of crimes committed with a firearm. In England and Wales, the numbers are around 10,000. In the US, the corresponding number is about 400,000. Even if we correct for the population difference, the US rate is 7 times higher. <br /><br />That's what <i>I</i> call pathetic. The US, with all the guns available for defense, is much less safe than the UK, where the population (and indeed the cops) is not armed to the teeth. <br /><br />HooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-75101802901976323502012-12-31T17:55:24.563-05:002012-12-31T17:55:24.563-05:00Hoo,
You have a truly unique way of looking at th...Hoo,<br /><br />You have a truly unique way of looking at the table. <br /><br />Yes, gun crime in the UK is below that of the US, but it's important to note that it was below that of the US <i>even prior to the gun control acts of 1988 and 1997.</i><br /><br />Let's rewind a bit. Britain was a relatively peaceful society, by American standards, with few mass shootings or gun crime, in the 1960's, 1970's and 1980's. Again, my assessment is relative to American standards. Then in 1988, there was the Hungerford massacre. As a kneejerk reaction, the British government tightened gun control laws, and gun crime rose. That shouldn't happen, should it? In 1996, a violent, crazy man went on a shooting spree at a school in Dunblane, Scotland. That shouldn't happen, should it? The British government responded by making guns even more difficult to own. They are now so difficult that a civilian is essentially banned from owning a private firearm. Gun crime continued to rise, according to your stats, until 2004. That shouldn't happen, should it? Also, in 2010, another crazy guy in Cumbria went on a shooting spree. That shouldn't happen, should it? <br /><br />Guns can't get much more illegal than they already are. <br /><br />Now, according to your stats, gun crimes went up after the gun control law of 1988, and again after the gun control law of 1997. Then, in 2004, they began to decline again, but from a high water mark. They are now approximately equal to the rate Britain saw in 1997, but still higher than it saw in 1998. In other words, even after draconian gun laws, Britain still has approximately the same rate of gun crime, and they still have spree killers. They also have armed gangs. What they don't have is an armed citizenry, or even armed bobbies. <br /><br />Gun control in Britain is truly "pathetic."<br /><br />BenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-28308971198607738152012-12-30T22:09:49.866-05:002012-12-30T22:09:49.866-05:00Mr. Ben,
The UK firearm crime rate did go up firs...Mr. Ben,<br /><br />The UK firearm crime rate did go up first, then it went down. It is now lower than at any point in the last two decades 1991–2011. I would not call that `pathetic' as Ms. TRISH did. <br /><br />And to put things in proper perspective, the firearm murder rate in the UK is some 25 times lower than it is in the US. I wouldn't call that `pathetic.' In fact, the word is much more aptly applicable to the situation in the US.<br /><br />HooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-24099418454461448522012-12-30T20:47:18.803-05:002012-12-30T20:47:18.803-05:00Yo, TRISH:
There was a law passed in 1988 that re...Yo, TRISH:<br /><br />There was a law passed in 1988 that restricted gun ownership, but the really draconian law came in 1997. Private gun ownership in Britain has been virtually illegal since '97. But if you look at the statistics, that was when gun crimes really shot up. Only 2010/2011 has had fewer incidents. All previos years since 1997 have had more gun crimes than 1997. Gun crime went UP, not down with the introduction of strict gun control laws. <br /><br />When Hoo says that gun crimes has been declining in recent years, he's right, but so what? It's declining from a spike that occurred only after the gun control laws of '88 and '97, and, more importantly, he's comparing stats from Britain post-gun control to other stats from Britain post-gun control. If he wanted to show that gun control has been a big success, he should show how the introduction of such laws had the affect of reducing such crimes.<br /><br />But he can't do that because it didn't.<br /><br />BenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-91779111916614206012012-12-30T20:36:24.660-05:002012-12-30T20:36:24.660-05:00Hoo,
I saw your chart. Very interesting. It appea...Hoo,<br /><br />I saw your chart. Very interesting. It appears that gun crime has been falling since about 2003. Very good. <br /><br />Britain has had strict gun control laws for much longer. You like to compare US to UK, though I don't think that's the right comparison to be making. I think the right comparison would be to compare the UK pre-gun control to the UK post-gun control. <br /><br />My understanding is that gun control really arrived in the UK in 1988, after the Hungerford massacre of 1987. I think we should be comparing British stats from before that date to British stats after that date. According to the chart you provided, every year since 1988 has had more gun crimes than 1988. They've also had two more spree killings, which is what the 1988 law was intended to prevent--the Dunblane Massacare and the Cumbria shootings. This is what I mean when I say that gun control in Britain has been pretty pathetic. The problem of British gun violence is worse now than before 1988. To me, that's pathetic, and it also confirms what I read in Tony Thompson's books, Gangs. The picture he painted was a nation in which regular citizens have no guns, most cops have no guns, and criminals have plenty because they get them through the same criminal channels that they get everything else. <br /><br />Criminals love gun control because it creates unarmed victims. <br /><br />TRISHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-66159397172311062002012-12-30T15:47:32.882-05:002012-12-30T15:47:32.882-05:00Don't say "up in arms", Joey. He hat...Don't say "up in arms", Joey. He hates that word.<br /><br />Although I think he might come out shooting if anyone tried to deprive him of his constitutional right to assbeads. <br /><br />TRISHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-26255314334852559982012-12-30T13:13:01.817-05:002012-12-30T13:13:01.817-05:00Witty comeback, KW. By witty, I mean nonsensical. ...Witty comeback, KW. By witty, I mean nonsensical. <br /><br />She has a point. I don't want to live in a country in which the government decides what I "need" then takes the rest. Your problem is that you hate guns. If it were something that you liked, you'd be up in arms at the suggestion that the government could take everything in excess of what you "need." <br /><br />Again, it's one set of rules for you and another for everybody else.<br /><br />JoeyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-23418169472228993522012-12-30T09:27:06.736-05:002012-12-30T09:27:06.736-05:00Trish, you need some anal beads.
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The detailed stats from 1969 on are av...Ms. TRISH,<br /><br />The detailed stats from 1969 on are available in this crime report from the UK Parliament: <a href="http://www.parliament.uk/Templates/BriefingPapers/Pages/BPPdfDownload.aspx?bp-id=sn01940" rel="nofollow">link</a>. See the chart on page 5.<br /><br />The UK is much safer than the US, even though the population is not armed.<br /><br />HooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-49710259177882666612012-12-30T07:39:06.031-05:002012-12-30T07:39:06.031-05:00llion,
According to the Daily Mail report on the ...llion,<br /><br />According to the Daily Mail report on the Paul Clarke case, he waited 4 days before handing the shotgun (which was actually a sawn-off one) to the Surrey Police. And he had a history of run-ins with members of the police force, which is possibly the reason he was charged - for reasons of personal animus.<br /><br />The judge noted that he could have been sentenced to 5 years gaol - but imposed a one year suspended sentence and a one night curfew, the night following the sentencing.<br /><br />He shouldn't have been prosecuted, but he wasn't sentenced to 5 years gaol. That appears to be factually incorrect - going on what the Daily Mail reported.bachfiendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14752055891882312204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-39624652734722324302012-12-30T05:18:58.634-05:002012-12-30T05:18:58.634-05:00Hoo thinks Catholic doctrine takes precedence over...Hoo thinks Catholic doctrine takes precedence over the US Constitution. Hoo is a scary theocrat. Hoo hates America. <br /><br />TRISHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-65176465682007948882012-12-30T05:17:16.841-05:002012-12-30T05:17:16.841-05:00Leftists love that line: "Why does anybody ne...Leftists love that line: "Why does anybody need (fill in the blank?)"<br /><br />I don't know, why does anybody need anal beads? Maybe we should have a limit on the number of porn flicks a person can own. Nobody needs more than ten, so let's place an artificial limit there. <br /><br />Leftists decide what everyone "needs" then has the government confiscate the rest. That's not how freedom works, KW. <br /><br />TRISHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-58018063089662866192012-12-30T04:59:35.994-05:002012-12-30T04:59:35.994-05:00Hoo,
What were the stats before they banned guns...Hoo, <br /><br />What were the stats before they banned guns? I am basing my opinion on a book I once read called Gangs by Tony Thompson. I don't have the book at hand because I returned it to the library. The author made it pretty clear that Britain has a number of organized crime syndicates of various ethnic stripes, and that they never have a hard time procuring guns. The result is an unarmed populace, and a largely unarmed police force, facing an armed criminal class. <br /><br />That's what I don't want here.<br /><br />I have no doubt that violence is less in Britain, but that's a cultural aspect. We're pretty violent here in America, but not because of our right to bear arms. Mexico is even more violent, and they have no such right. <br /><br />TRISHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-6603806406528709872012-12-30T04:54:14.431-05:002012-12-30T04:54:14.431-05:00"Meanwhile, law-abiding citizens who have com..."<i>Meanwhile, law-abiding citizens who have come into the possession of a firearm, even accidentally, have been harshly treated. In 2009 a former soldier, Paul Clarke, found a bag in his garden containing a shotgun. He brought it to the police station and was immediately handcuffed and charged with possession of the gun. At his trial the judge noted: "In law there is no dispute that Mr. Clarke has no defence to this charge. The intention of anybody possessing a firearm is irrelevant."</i>"<br /><br />I knew about this case ... which added, in an earlier thread, to the irony (*) of the leftist-and-atheistic fool going on about how strict gun-control laws are all about enforcing the spirit of the law, rather than the letter of it (**), and therefore David Gregory shouldn't be prosecuted for violating D.C.'s strict gun laws.<br /><br />(*) The irony started with him -- an atheist -- trying to use Christ's own words to justify his hypocrisy.<br /><br />(**) Of course, the "spirit" of the laws "liberals" like is: <i>this law wasn't intended to apply to "liberals"</i>.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-1275701254603504232012-12-29T19:58:25.078-05:002012-12-29T19:58:25.078-05:00@Hoo:
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"Assault rifle" is not a lib...Dr. Egnor,<br /><br />"Assault rifle" is not a liberal invention. The term is a literal translation of the German word <i>Sturmgewehr</i>. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44" rel="nofollow">StG 44</a> is widely considered to be the first assault rifle.<br /><br />HooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-11447376621021238012012-12-29T18:01:13.164-05:002012-12-29T18:01:13.164-05:00@KW:
Let's get tough on high-capacity magazin...@KW:<br /><br />Let's get tough on high-capacity magazines. Should David Gregory be prosecuted?mregnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.com