tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post7862176913343534071..comments2024-03-16T05:00:38.826-04:00Comments on Egnorance: Joe Biden "not second-guessing' China's forced abortions, sterilization, and femicide.mregnorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-23740629247282221032011-08-26T12:22:19.229-04:002011-08-26T12:22:19.229-04:00@anon:
[Malthus was wrong only because he didn...@anon:<br /><br />[Malthus was wrong only because he didn't factor in technological advancement.]<br /><br />What a hoot. "only because"? The rate of technological advancement (arithmetic) compared with population increase (geometric) was was malthus' whole argument. He was utterly wrong. Utterly. Utterly.<br /><br />That's another salient characteristic of you atheist/materialist/leftist nuts. You can't just say you were wrong. <br /><br />There has probably been no scientific claim in the modern world that has been as utterly refuted as the claim that overpopulation threatens mankind. From Malthus to Ehrlich ('England will disappear by 2000'), you guys have been wrong on everything.<br /><br />Just crawl in a hole somewhere, and stop inflicting your totalitarian ideas on the rest of us.Mike Egnornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-62218659370659515112011-08-26T08:31:52.191-04:002011-08-26T08:31:52.191-04:00@anon:
Human well-being is influenced by innumera...@anon:<br /><br />Human well-being is influenced by innumerable factors. I gave you the big three: economic and political freedom, and Christian culture. Population density isn't on that list.<br /><br />The impact of population density on humanity is not clear. Too little population is clearly a problem: in very sparsely populated regions, the collaboration and specialization needed for advanced society is not possible, and life is solitary and primitive. Whether dense population causes significant problems is not clear. Many densely populated regions are flourishing. Some aren't.<br /><br />Your population hysteria is the same kind of fact-free drivel as global warming, eugenics, etc. It follows the same patters:<br /><br />1) Announce a catastrophe threatening mankind.<br />2) Announce that only science can understand it.<br />3) Demand that scientists and governments be ceded power to remake the world in accordance with the worldview of the people announcing the impending catastrophe. <br /><br />I have no tolerance for totalitarians. The one child policy in China is totalitarian on a scale with the Holocaust. You and all population control nuts are complicit in this atrocity.mregnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-69075977725716510672011-08-25T22:57:38.635-04:002011-08-25T22:57:38.635-04:00"The Malthusian hoax has been going on for se..."The Malthusian hoax has been going on for several centuries, and it's time to bury it. There is no correlatin whatsoever between population and human well-being as a cause-and-effect relationship. None. Zippo."<br /><br />Are you really saying the population density of Bangladesh or Ethiopia aren't factors in their well-being because there are wealthy cities where people live close together just fine? That's your argument? <br /><br />I'm sure you're right. I'm sure that's a valid comparison. Let's just imagine for a moment, shall we, what the world would be like if everyone had the same standard of living as the average person in Hong Kong or the United States. I'm sure that would work, wouldn't it?<br /><br />Let's see, all we need is 6 times the current global energy production and really only about triple the current global food production. That's manageable, isn't it? Oh, and we need multiples of the currently available fresh water. But all of that is possible with sufficient economic and political freedom and good Christian upbringing. Total population wouldn't be a factor at all.<br /><br />I'm sure you're right.<br /><br /><br /><br />Malthus was wrong only because he didn't factor in technological advancement. Now we're relying on science more than ever to provide more energy sources, more energy efficiency, and new desalinization technology for fresh water. And we're rely on science and technology to continually improve yields from our land and agriculture. <br /><br />It's ironic - the scientists you ignore when they warn against global population growth are the same scientists you're counting on to keep coming up with ways of keeping all those people alive.<br /><br />As I said, time will tell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-37942746154449926182011-08-25T19:41:46.641-04:002011-08-25T19:41:46.641-04:00@RickK:
Sorry about the website blocking your acc...@RickK:<br /><br />Sorry about the website blocking your account. I have no idea why. If I could fix it I would. <br /><br />[Hey Michael, please point out where I said China's policies were "ok with me". Grand theft is less of a crime than mass murder, but that doesn't mean grand theft is "ok".]<br /><br />You were quite clear that future historians may see China's One Child policy as less of a crime than the Church's opposition to birth control. Perhaps they will, which will mean that we all will be living in a totalitarian hellhole. <br /><br />When I have time I'll post on the Church's stand on contraception. It is an enlightened and obviously correct stand. Briefly, the Chuch sees marriage as a sacrament, and sexual love and procreation as the pinnacle of God's gifts. The separation of sex from procreation is akin to the separation of eating from nourishment. Contraception unhealthy in a way analogous to bulimia. <br /><br />The Malthusian hoax has been going on for several centuries, and it's time to bury it. There is no correlatin whatsoever between population and human well-being as a cause-and-effect relationship. None. Zippo. <br /><br />Europe (rich) has twice the population density as Africa (poor). Bangladesh is very densly populated (poor) as is Malta (rich). Hong Kong has 6 times the population density as Bangladesh. <br /><br />Population density does not correlate at all with human well-being. Rates of population growth correlate in reverse: increased well-being tends to cause population growth to fall.<br /><br />There are three factors that correlate reasonably well with human well-being:<br /><br />1) Economic freedom<br />2) Political freedom<br />3) Christian culture/heritage. <br /><br />Overpopulation hysteria is a hoax. People are the ultimate resource. Policies that restrict family size are crimes against humanity, and represent one of the ugliest forms of totalitarianism.Mike Egnornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-38152617629757772262011-08-25T19:37:00.825-04:002011-08-25T19:37:00.825-04:00see what you did there Rick .... you added BIRTH C...see what you did there Rick .... you added BIRTH CONTROL and REWARD, but remember that the ANON person from the other thread meant that secularism causes prosperity. C'mon you did read the the comment right above mine right ? <br /><br />Religion or no religion they are not going to have a good life any day soon. So secularizing a place means nothing. They secularized Russia... that place really did well huh ??? what about North Korea ??? Albania had a forced secularization once... they are also not all that well.<br /><br />This Idea that somehow Secular or religious have a HUGE influence in the country's economy is often misguided. People love to point to European countries and say HEY! look how secular and happy they are... but OPS... people forget to say that they became really rich and wealth before becoming secular. So the whole, Cause: Secularism/ Consequence: Prosperity does not follow. Actually one could argue is the other way around. The richer and the more prosper a country is, the less people see the need for religion because they want to care about other stuff. <br /><br />Without saying that one could argue that even prosperity alone might not be enough to produce huge amounts of secular people.<br /><br />Rick you miss the big picture... the those country were the product of Imperialism, Religions disputions among Muslins and worst of all Ethnical cleansing. Your attempt to blame religion is as good as any other people trying to blame simply and ideology or philosophy to explain a countries situation. For instance... the europeans are very Nihiilistic... have they become worst than they were like 50 years ago... well not really I suppose.Edwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-38984316919183723712011-08-25T18:45:04.730-04:002011-08-25T18:45:04.730-04:00"Murdering kids, torturing women, all ok if i..."Murdering kids, torturing women, all ok if it advances your fruitcake ideology."<br /><br />Hey Michael, please point out where I said China's policies were "ok with me". Grand theft is less of a crime than mass murder, but that doesn't mean grand theft is "ok". <br /><br />Do you understand the difference? Of course you do - you were just trying to score "gotcha" points by attacking a strawman.<br /><br />Guess what Michael - when you dispense with honesty, the points don't count. You're old enough to have learned that by now.<br /><br /><br />Now, let's talk "fruitcake ideologies" a moment.<br /><br />Global institutions encouraging uncontrolled population growth are indeed perpetuating a crime against humanity. <br /><br />Edward asked in a different thread: would Ethiopians become rich if they were secular? Well, that's an interesting example, Edward.<br /><br />Ethiopia's agriculture cannot support its current population. But the population is exploding and birth control is rare due to religious objections. Remove the religious objections, teach and reward birth control, and Ethiopians may not become rich, but they won't starve as fast! And they might just have a shot at a sustainable culture.<br /><br />But no - religious leaders and religious traditions are telling them that a baby dead of starvation is less evil than a package of Trojans. <br /><br />Talk about a "fruitcake ideology". Though fruitcake is kind of a soft epithet for such inhuman and short-sighted practices.<br /><br />Finally - I post anonymously because you're website blocks my account. Remove the block and I won't have to.<br /><br />-- RickKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-26935525450437959462011-08-25T01:10:34.267-04:002011-08-25T01:10:34.267-04:00@anon:
[Anonymous said...
When future historians...@anon:<br /><br />[Anonymous said... <br />When future historians look back from the perspective of a planet depleted under the weight of 15 billion people, there is a strong possibility that China's brutal policies will ultimately be viewed as less of a crime against humanity when compared to religious injunctions against birth control and family planning.<br /><br />Time will tell.]<br /><br />Murdering kids, torturing women, all ok if it advances your fruitcake ideology.<br /><br />I see why you comment anonyomously.Mike Egnornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-74797158424172641762011-08-24T23:13:48.828-04:002011-08-24T23:13:48.828-04:00ahhahaha don't like my XD's; you people ar...ahhahaha don't like my XD's; you people are all emoticon haters xP!<br /><br /><br />Anon above me. <br /><br />Necessity is the mother of all inventions. We know that humans often will bend rules to accept the needs of the Era, or the Epoch.<br /><br />Perhaps, someday, we will be one big CHINA.Edwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-34821157852537590852011-08-24T22:10:45.095-04:002011-08-24T22:10:45.095-04:00When future historians look back from the perspect...When future historians look back from the perspective of a planet depleted under the weight of 15 billion people, there is a strong possibility that China's brutal policies will ultimately be viewed as less of a crime against humanity when compared to religious injunctions against birth control and family planning.<br /><br />Time will tell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-48722418596269746342011-08-24T21:35:58.083-04:002011-08-24T21:35:58.083-04:00Man that XD thing is annoying XDMan that XD thing is annoying XDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-82440326495400499432011-08-24T20:36:10.370-04:002011-08-24T20:36:10.370-04:00Anon... Who doesn't man/girl XD??? seriously. ...Anon... Who doesn't man/girl XD??? seriously. China is like a super cheap stuff manufacturer.Edwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-86792902337776784842011-08-24T19:41:17.101-04:002011-08-24T19:41:17.101-04:00This is ridiculous, Biden was after all, pointing ...This is ridiculous, Biden was after all, pointing out the unsustainable nature of the one child policy. He was simply doing it diplomatically in order not to offend. Meanwhile, I bet Dr. Egnor has a house full of products manufactured in China.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-60854505560787833982011-08-24T07:29:58.181-04:002011-08-24T07:29:58.181-04:00Comrade Joe?
The 'One Child' policy will n...Comrade Joe?<br />The 'One Child' policy will no doubt go down in history as one of the greatest violations of human rights on record. Biden will just be another gaff prone, opportunist politician who kissed red ass while Rome burned. The deeds (killing etc) will be remembered, if reluctantly, but the enablers will be forgotten.... until they enable again. <br />For SHAME, Mr Biden...for shame.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.com