tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post1506355069517889311..comments2024-03-16T05:00:38.826-04:00Comments on Egnorance: Why are we funding Planned Parenthood health clinics?mregnorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-68840504639259549072012-05-25T18:03:37.133-04:002012-05-25T18:03:37.133-04:00Trish,
My comment was in response to Michael'...Trish,<br /><br />My comment was in response to Michael's final sentence referring to 'butcher(ing) OUR children for profit'. A woman's fetus isn't ours. It's hers. The case of Gianna Jensen has been disputed. The confidentiality of an adoption means that the medical history can't be verified, and there's a suspicion that the case has been fabricated for political reasons.<br /><br />Perhaps not. There was a similar case in Germany, involving a failed late term abortion for trisomy 21. However, almost all abortions are carried out early, in which viability of the fetus isn't a question. I don't dispute that a fetus isn't human. It's just not a person, just like the 30% of conceptions that spontaneously abort.<br /><br />I personally support the right of women to have the automatic right to decide whether abortion is wanted or not early in the pregnancy (it's her body after all), with her automatic right disappearing late in pregnancy. You have to set a dividing line, which is arbitrary, like voting age and legal drinking age. I'd set it at 20 weeks, because there's evidence that the capacity of the fetus to feel pain doesn't develop to at least 24 weeks.<br /><br />That would have avoided Gianna Jensen and also the case in Germany.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02278979170519885911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-20318387237864109542012-05-25T09:43:58.967-04:002012-05-25T09:43:58.967-04:00Trish,
"A sane person knows that not being a...Trish,<br /><br />"A sane person knows that not being able to survive outside the womb means that they will DIE outside the womb. Things that aren't living can't die."<br /> <br />Very well put. <br />Too much bloody mindedness is hidden in this clinical, pseudo-scientific new-speak of 'survival'. <br /><br />Your stimulating point, above, has lead me to further: A living thing that is intentionally <i>caused</i> to die has been killed. <br /><br />In other words: Removing a living thing from the environment that allows it to 'survive' (ie not die) is to cause it's death. <br />Because only a living thing may be caused to die (or not 'survive'), and removing it from it's environment is the cause of death - therefor, those removing a living thing in order to cause it's death are killing it. <br />When the thing that is to 'survive' - or not - is human, and can only ever be a human being; then it is only logical to conclude that those that cause the removal of that living human are killing him/her. <br />At 8 weeks, or or 80 years, it is still killing. <br />Well put, indeed.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-65844724408276758632012-05-25T09:27:52.097-04:002012-05-25T09:27:52.097-04:00Oh! What an astute reply.
So rich in in thought. ...Oh! What an astute reply. <br />So rich in in thought. So deep in the level of contemplation. <br />What a brilliant mind you are, Anon. <br />How deeply respectful you are of others. <br />Consider your compassion towards a veteran, when you suggest a comment you cannot grasp must be the result of his missing his meds. <br />Meds for what I wonder? A serious wound? Cancer? <br />Or do you mean mental stuff? Like anti-psychotics or anti-depressants for serious disorders like PTSD? <br />Wouldn't that be HILARIOUS! <br /><br />Well, unfortunately for you, it is none.<br />This veteran is neither rotting with disease, crippled, or driven near mad by war. <br />He is a lucky one. <br />In simple terms, so even YOU may understand: I don't have to take any 'meds' currently. <br /><br />Care to comment on my comment? Or is this goodbye?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-80040168513018918032012-05-25T09:13:18.122-04:002012-05-25T09:13:18.122-04:00Bach,
""Again, a fetus isn't a child...Bach,<br />""Again, a fetus isn't a child. A woman's intrauterine fetus is her fetus, not yours, ours or anyone elses's fetus."<br />This is where we disagree. <br />A human foetus can only develop into a baby, and therefore is human. A human has the right to determine it's own destiny. <br />It belongs only to itself, not it's mother or father. The mother and father OWE it the chance to develop into a child. Should they lapse in that responsibility it is their FAILURE that they own, not the child. <br />People cannot own other people in my view. <br />Not of any age, race, religion, size, or opinion. <br />Killing a human is killing a human. <br />That has a name. <br />It is a crime.<br />Someday, I pray, those involved in making this industry will be held responsible.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-35696541380413269052012-05-25T09:06:08.783-04:002012-05-25T09:06:08.783-04:00A lawyer sends money to an abortion mill. Man... I...A lawyer sends money to an abortion mill. Man... I feel like I need a shower after reading that comment. <br /><br />New personal rule: Avoid reading the stuff from people who do not even have the class/spine to get a google name or sign their posts.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-26687398268173574972012-05-25T09:02:30.360-04:002012-05-25T09:02:30.360-04:00Anon,
"So, crusader, how does it feel to be ...Anon,<br /><br />"So, crusader, how does it feel to be the evil rot in society that is getting purged?"<br /><br />I don't understand the thrust of of your question. It seems to be unrelated to the post or my comment. Perhaps your comment is on the wrong post or blog?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-65207198275784097672012-05-24T18:46:55.942-04:002012-05-24T18:46:55.942-04:00Pepe,
Wrong again as usual. We 'heartless at...Pepe,<br /><br />Wrong again as usual. We 'heartless atheists' (as you so characteristically charmingly put it) realize that an individual is 50% nature, 50% nurture (approximately, as discussed in such 'atheist' books such as 'the Blank Slate'). There isn't much point in producing unwanted children or adding children to communities which are unable to provide for the ones it has already.<br /><br />Children have to be nurtured to realize their potential, otherwise you'll get the tragedy as typified to excess in the Rumanian orphanage scandal under the previous Communist regime.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02278979170519885911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-32711096110452958082012-05-24T17:18:57.579-04:002012-05-24T17:18:57.579-04:00It will surely bounce!It will surely bounce!Pépéhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00896283600100217146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-24320287317071755372012-05-24T17:09:17.830-04:002012-05-24T17:09:17.830-04:00"Again, a fetus isn't a child. A woman..."Again, a fetus isn't a child. A woman's intrauterine fetus is her fetus, not yours, ours or anyone elses's fetus."<br /><br />Have you ever heard of Jianna Jesson? She's am abortion survivor. Her mother tried to kill her via abortion. She survived the abortion. If she hadn't been alive in the first place, how did she survive it? Survival implies that someone is already alive and continues living. <br /><br />That is why why talk of "fetal viaibility". For some people, this represents some kind of sick line in that divides murder from "choice". A viable fetus is one that can survive--that's that word again--outside the womb. Using a truly perverse logic, these people reason that fetuses (children, actually) aren't really alive if they can't survive outside the womb. <br /><br />A sane person knows that not being able to survive outside the womb means that they will DIE outside the womb. Things that aren't living can't die.<br /><br />TRISHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-90460559177096732772012-05-24T17:02:46.293-04:002012-05-24T17:02:46.293-04:00Oh yes, you're right. The Constitution says so...Oh yes, you're right. The Constitution says so. So we're not killing Americans. We're killing stateless people. Which really makes a difference, because if a person isn't an American, it's already to kill her.<br /><br />TRISHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-48413755011088058222012-05-24T12:26:56.227-04:002012-05-24T12:26:56.227-04:00"We either stand against the evil we see, or ...<i>"We either stand against the evil we see, or are(be?) damned with it."</i><br /><br />So, crusader, how does it feel to be the evil rot in society that is getting purged?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-9493942435188171342012-05-24T11:38:38.048-04:002012-05-24T11:38:38.048-04:00Looks like lil' cwusader forgot to take his me...Looks like lil' cwusader forgot to take his meds again today. Really, the daily dose is there for a reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-15153463770583697362012-05-24T10:20:42.638-04:002012-05-24T10:20:42.638-04:00Dr Egnor,
I think we need to look deeper into this...Dr Egnor,<br />I think we need to look deeper into this trend than the business side of it. That's a start, but we really need to follow the trail. <br />To find the beast itself we have to look into it's cave, and it's lair is history. <br /><br />What we are seeing here is the decline of a civilization. The implosion of a stiff meritocracy cum rigid technocracy. <br />An experiment in democracy gone oligarchy. <br />The horrible patterns of infanticide, selfishness, amorality, oppression, censorship, and ever present sexual deviances are typical of a period of decline. Just as they are today. <br /><br />History records several such slopes, and each of them is replete with exactly these kinds of behaviour. Surely today's is far more clinical (or 'scientific', if you prefer), but they are spun quite typically for the 'greater good'. <br />Offering up the blood of innocents for the 'crops' or the 'earth' (or the personal income) is a constant during these periods. So operations like Planned Parenthood are a perfect fit for our corporate present.<br />This trend of child sacrifice seems to serve the function of hastening the downfall of the entire corrupted hulk, and encourage those who would sack and reduce the last remnants of any such culture. <br />Evil pays evil wages. <br /><br />During the final throes of this infection of malaise -of this mass 'affluenza'- the symptoms that present themselves nearest the demise are the most disgusting and horrific and include The murder of the elderly and children, even the scraping of unborn babes from their mothers' wombs is justified as a 'choice', the whole of the potential of that new human life reduced to a matter of property law. Who 'owns' 'it'? <br />Consider: If the most amazing and important thing, the womb, is not sacred to a man or nation, what is? What more do their enemies needs say? <br />Need an excuse for slaughter? <br />'They kill their own young' is better than any blood libel imaginable. <br />Evil motivates evil. <br />Thus we begin to see the pay-off for preventing all those sons and daughters, all the cousins, uncles, and great aunties. The generations of literature, science, and art. All that potential sacrificed to some abstract notion like time or wealth ('sustainability') ; all of that life scraped from a womb in an act of sacrifice to the status quo. <br />And what does the mighty - whatever they call it - pay them back with? Derision. Opposition. Loss. Madness. <br />Eventually, destruction of their way of life. <br />Evil rewards with evil. <br /><br />I recall my grandfather saying to me, when I was a boy, something that he felt was obvious, but struck me as profound. It has stayed with me all these years, through war and peril. <br />"We either stand against the evil we see, or are(be?) damned with it."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-5618823675737257872012-05-24T06:52:23.424-04:002012-05-24T06:52:23.424-04:00Michael,
The reason why Planned Parenthood is fun...Michael,<br /><br />The reason why Planned Parenthood is funded is to piss off people like like you. No other reason is necessary.<br /><br />Again, a fetus isn't a child. A woman's intrauterine fetus is her fetus, not yours, ours or anyone elses's fetus.<br /><br />If competition results in reduced costs, remind me again why America spends 16% of GDP on health care, fails to cover substantial segments of the population and has the worst outcomes of health care of all the developed countries, so it's very much an outlier amongst comparable countries in regard to cost (most expensive) and results (worst).<br /><br />Or isn't American healthcare competitive and it's all a rort?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02278979170519885911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-89330339669486984002012-05-24T06:41:46.114-04:002012-05-24T06:41:46.114-04:00In your honor, I'm sending a big check to my l...In your honor, I'm sending a big check to my local Planned Parenthood today. Thanks for the reminder!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com