tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post6236849886855285188..comments2024-03-16T05:00:38.826-04:00Comments on Egnorance: Without free condoms, what will come of little girls' dreams?mregnorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-54857507578386125862012-06-14T07:39:48.071-04:002012-06-14T07:39:48.071-04:00Iko,
Conceded.
I merely point out that the exampl...Iko,<br />Conceded. <br />I merely point out that the example given is YET ANOTHER Atheist regime, and that the same kind of horrors are ever present in the modern versions of those regimes. <br />In a region were life is valued poorly and in addition to this a materialist doctrine is introduced.... you get this kind of thing.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-56345593833773253402012-06-14T06:13:27.086-04:002012-06-14T06:13:27.086-04:00Yoyo,
in Russia, a country where abortions and con...Yoyo,<br />in Russia, a country where abortions and contraceptions are allowed (there is one of the higher rates of abortions in the world today: one million women have abortions every year!) we found the same problems of the Ceausescu's Romania:<br />http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4735006.stm<br />http://themoscownews.com/local/20080919/55347537.html<br /><br />so please do not blame 'denial of contraception to women' for these tragedies.Domicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02108175024624509183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-72276162112370825112012-06-14T03:49:59.630-04:002012-06-14T03:49:59.630-04:00Yoyo,
no, Romania is what happens to women and chi...Yoyo,<br />no, Romania is what happens to women and children when we have two atheists governing with communist principles.Domicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02108175024624509183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-65256802181903606862012-06-14T03:46:37.326-04:002012-06-14T03:46:37.326-04:00"where contraception is limited the male domi..."where contraception is limited the male dominance became stronger"...<br /><br />do you know Ceauşescu's wife?<br />do you know that the banning of the abortion was one of the many ideas of Elena?<br /><br />"Among her ideas was the systematization of the Romanian countryside - eliminating 7000 villages and erecting 3500 agro-industrial centers; elimination of the Romanian foreign debt by starving and freezing the population; demolition of the historic Bucharest in favor of their megalomaniac Civic Center-project; banning abortion, leading to overfull mismanaged orphanages etc."<br /><br />http://www.ceausescu.org/ceausescu_texts/powerful_women_balkan.htmlDomicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02108175024624509183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-23409159724079361142012-06-14T03:00:59.599-04:002012-06-14T03:00:59.599-04:00Ito of course Romania was a shit hole so was Alban...Ito of course Romania was a shit hole so was Albania which is why my country is full of refugees from these places. My point is that no matter what the reason for the ban be it catholisism, population "management" or fascism, denial of contraception to women leads to this.<br /><br />"In 1966, the Ceauşescu regime, in an attempt to boost the country's population, made abortion illegal, and introduced other policies to reverse the very low birth rate and fertility rate. Mothers of at least five children would be entitled to significant benefits, while mothers of at least ten children were declared heroine mothers by the Romanian state. Few women ever sought this status; instead, the average Romanian family during the time had two to three children (see Demographics of Romania).[10] Furthermore, a considerable number of women either died or were maimed during clandestine abortions.[11]<br /> <br />The government also targeted rising divorce rates and made divorce much more difficult - it was decreed that a marriage could be dissolved only in exceptional cases. By the late 1960s, the population began to swell. In turn, a new problem was created by child abandonment, which swelled the orphanage population (see Cighid). Transfusions of untested blood led to Romania accounting for many of Europe's paediatric HIV/AIDS cases at the turn of the 21st century despite having a population that only makes up around 3% of Europe"[12][13]<br /><br />Whatever your philosphy keep your hands off my daughters options.<br /><br />yoyoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-16638993410091384472012-06-14T02:42:10.439-04:002012-06-14T02:42:10.439-04:00Ceausecu had a weird compulsion about contraceptio...Ceausecu had a weird compulsion about contraception because they thought it was a sign of western decadence (sound familiar Egnorance). However unlike mike they did promote abortion, probably because the orphanages were full. Like most societies where contraception is limited the male dominance became stronger. Even without that, so called natural contraception, billings etc does not work (and by the way seems to be avoiding that whole idea that all sex should be procreative hmmmm).<br />Romania is what happens to women and children without contraception and it is foul and a shame to all human beings.<br /><br /><br />YoyoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-42559684638193368042012-06-14T02:23:51.910-04:002012-06-14T02:23:51.910-04:00but why Romania?
Let's take a civil and modern...but why Romania?<br />Let's take a civil and modern country where abortions and contraceptives are legal:<br /><br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2149753/Teenage-girls-EIGHT-abortions-let-appalling-way-38-000-undergo-termination-single-year.html<br /><br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-539728/1-300-women-FIVE-abortions.html<br /><br />http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/parenting/rise-in-women-having-repeated-abortions-in-uk-official-figures-3123853.htmlDomicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02108175024624509183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-68403179967116362402012-06-14T01:54:43.749-04:002012-06-14T01:54:43.749-04:00"In the case of my good frien, more than a do..."In the case of my good frien, more than a dozen";<br />could I remember that a woman for at least 2 weeks any months could have sex without pregnancy risk?<br />Supposing that your friend is not a Catholic could I remember that there are types of sexual intercourse without risk of pregnancy?<br /><br />back to Ceauşescu: for what strange reason Romanian women could have illegal and clandestine abortions but not illegal contracceptives or condoms?Domicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02108175024624509183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-2482173108827528462012-06-13T13:35:10.165-04:002012-06-13T13:35:10.165-04:00CrusadeRex,
With all due respect, Romania was a sh...CrusadeRex,<br />With all due respect, Romania was a shit-hole before, during and after Ceausecu.Iko Ouro Pretohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04599830041028902667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-45452451090641810082012-06-13T11:41:54.568-04:002012-06-13T11:41:54.568-04:00But why choose the teen pregnancy rate as the benc...<i>But why choose the teen pregnancy rate as the benchmark? In the 1950's, women married much younger and at a much higher rate. A substantial portion of the "teen" pregnancies in the 1950's were 19 year old married women starting their family.</i><br /><br />Your source for this assertion? How many of those 19 year olds got married in shotgun style weddings after they got pregnant? In a society in which forced marriages are the result of out-of-wedlock pregnancies, marriage is often pathological.<br /><br /><i>Why not choose the out-of wedlock birth rate, which has exploded by more than an order of magnitude? It is not influenced by such confounding factors.</i><br /><br />Except that it is. If you don't think the out-of-wedlock birth rate is influenced by "many cultural factors" then you are more deluded than I had thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-17555804450958695332012-06-13T11:38:00.464-04:002012-06-13T11:38:00.464-04:00That was a devastating response. You completely de...<i>That was a devastating response. You completely destroy the logic of 'Anon'.</i><br /><br />It was an inane response that only shows Trish to be sadly misinformed. Your "kudos" show you to be the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-70650452761101501122012-06-13T11:37:08.492-04:002012-06-13T11:37:08.492-04:00I don't honestly believe that we know how many...<i>I don't honestly believe that we know how many pregnant teenagers there are in the age of abortion, only how many live births.</i><br /><br />Then you are sadly misinformed. You see, we have a good idea how many abortions there are in the age of legal abortions. The teen abortion rate in 2009 was about 20 per 1,000 teens. What we don't really know is how many abortions there were in the age of illegal abortions (and if you think the number was even close to "zero" then you are deluded)<br /><br />The teen birth rate in 1955 was about 95 births per thousand teen girls. The teen birth rate in 2009 was about 40 births per thousand teen girls. The teen abortion rate in 2009 was about 20 per 1,000 teens. If you add the 2009 teen births to the 2009 teen abortions, you still get a figure substantially lower than the birth rate from 1955.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-29837256252830732452012-06-13T08:51:42.870-04:002012-06-13T08:51:42.870-04:00Yoyo,
"...what happens when they are denied ...Yoyo,<br /><br />"...what happens when they are denied access to contraception should apalll you. We need look no further than what happened to women under the hideous Ceausecu. "<br />An excellent example of state-Atheism. This is what happens when human life is devalued. Thanks, Yoyo. <br /><br />"Women both married and un married were forced by financial circumstances to have many many abortions."<br />The same happens in China today, except that it is not concern over personal finances but police that force them too. <br />I am sure Ceausecu would approve!<br />Worse still the corpses of the unborn are often used as a resource for various 'medicinal' and 'cosmetic' applications. Apparently in some cases EATEN. <br /><br />"In the case of my good frien, more than a dozen. "<br />How horrific. My heart goes out to the woman, but even more so to all her little ones that could have been. What a hell to have to live through, and what a way to die. <br /><br />"The orphanages were full and notoriously cruel."<br />I bet. Even modern western orphanages are scary places. Better than death, though.<br /><br />"I don't know about you but I refuse to see that future for my daughters or their partners. "<br />Nor would I. That is why I teach my children to abstain from sex unless it is with a loved one, and to defy ANY sort of dehuamizing or totalitarian push by the authorities - neo 'secularism' and state atheism included.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-44198474958281481222012-06-13T08:38:32.777-04:002012-06-13T08:38:32.777-04:00Oleg,
Actually I wrote that most atheists (the va...Oleg,<br /><br />Actually I wrote that most atheists (the vast majority) are normal people. I decried STATE atheism, and to a lesser extent the potential blinders/limitations that atheism as a 'world view' (or belief system). My use of the word 'ideology' was in relation to state Atheism. That specific ideology would be communist. I knew Iko would understand that. <br />It seem you have made the same error that the poster formerly known as Bachfiend has a gazillion times: You have misread or misunderstood my comment! :PAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-12488821945544521062012-06-13T02:31:15.357-04:002012-06-13T02:31:15.357-04:00Egnorance, if you really care about women then wha...Egnorance, if you really care about women then what happens when they are denied access to contraception should apalll you. We need look no further than what happened to women under the hideous Ceausecu. Women both married and un married were forced by financial circumstances to have many many abortions. In the case of my good frien, more than a dozen. The orphanages were full and notoriously cruel. I don't know about you but I refuse to see that future for my daughters or their partners. <br /><br />YoyoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-52460240700669470822012-06-12T12:44:26.039-04:002012-06-12T12:44:26.039-04:00Crus,
You are making the same error Egnor made a ...Crus,<br /><br />You are making the same error Egnor made a bazillion times. Atheism is a worldview, but it is not an ideology. That I do not believe in God does not mean that I advocate the methods of Stalin or the Kims.oleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11644793385433232819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-56794411603840802382012-06-12T12:24:30.659-04:002012-06-12T12:24:30.659-04:00Trish,
That was a devastating response. You comp...Trish, <br /><br />That was a devastating response. You completely destroy the logic of 'Anon'. <br />Kudos. <br /><br />Just FYI to you and KT (I think it is you two!) who have been promoting 'For Greater Glory'... I managed to obtain an early release disc from a friend of mine who is taking them into Cuba for the faithful there (he is connected with the producers somehow). I hope to get my hands on it this week! <br />Looking forward to it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-49707140099808993022012-06-12T12:18:09.360-04:002012-06-12T12:18:09.360-04:00CNTD
" but I do not believe in the church......CNTD<br /><br />" but I do not believe in the church..."<br /><br />Well, I do you see. I have seen great work done by many Churches and enjoy the fellowship and communion of my own. I am not a Roman Catholic, but I do consider myself a Catholic (high church) and do see much good in what they (Rome) do. I also see flaws (and in my own church). But that is the HUMAN aspect of our collective endeavour shining through. <br /><br />" I’ve seen up front the monstrosity of what Christianity is, and I do want that for my children."<br />You have seen what Christians and Christianity CAN be when manipulated by fanatic elements and cynical powers. I did too, in West Africa. It can also be just the opposite when expressed in it's true form by sincere and humble believers. I also saw this (among other places) in West Africa. <br />For my own part I have seen the evils of Islamic fanaticism up close, but I am aware of it's positive aspects also. The exception to this is the Atheist state. I have yet to see a positive side to that ideology, and have spent several months of my life in one. <br /><br />Try to keep that in mind, Iko: We are not all like that. Not even most. Most Muslims, Christians, and even Atheists are just normal folks. <br /><br />I have also been the victim of intolerance (many times) by FELLOW Christians. <br />This does not shake my faith in God, or even the various branches of the Church of Christ. It simply affirms my beliefs in the fallible nature of mankind. <br />Again, we are not all fanatics and bigots, not even most of us. <br />But we are human, and there I would agree we have been used in the past, and will no doubt be in the future. All human beliefs - whether we talk about science, religion or philosophical systems - are susceptible to such manipulations. <br /><br />PS I think you have Mike all wrong.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-63694366139232762232012-06-12T12:17:10.754-04:002012-06-12T12:17:10.754-04:00"A pig like behaviour is a pig like behaviour..."A pig like behaviour is a pig like behaviour. I’m against that for girls or boys. I brought up my two boys to be gentlemen, and they are."<br />Good! A good relationship with mum is half the battle for boys. <br /><br />"Why ? You’re giving an extreme example. Yes, some girls dress and possibly act like whores, but not all, and certainly not those in my circle. "<br />Why? Because it is not in their best interests to table sex as a tool. The reason I give an extreme example (admittedly) is to illustrate the point clearly. <br />My sons friends do not come off that way, either. At least not many of them. <br /><br />" Far from it, they dress sexy, just like the boys, and have fun, just like the boys. A young girl has just as much right to have an intense sexual life as the boys do. Why should it be otherwise ?"<br />I am not referring to dressing in a way that is attractive. I am referring to those hordes of young women easily found in any major urban region that dress (or should I say UNDRESS) in a fashion that is designed to advertise their sexual availability. <br />As for the intensity of their sex lives, I wish them well. Understand, though, that I do not mean QUANTITY of sexual union, but QUALITY of sexual union. <br /><br />"Michael might think that because I’m an atheist, I engage in promiscuous sex with goats, but he’s off, real off. Michael thinks all atheists are monsters, but he’s dead wrong."<br />I cannot speake for Dr Egnor, but I can for myself. I do not think atheists are evil. I think atheism is a paradoxical and potentially morally dangerous position. The Atheist himself/herself causes me only a brief pause. My feeling for them is that I hope their eyes are opened to a much bigger, richer world. <br /><br />"By the way, there’s one thing I would like to clarify with you CrusadeRex. I’m not sure how to classify myself, I’m not religious, but I’m not sure I’m an atheist either."<br />Good! That certainty held by those folks is more fanatical than ANY major religion. In my circles we would refer to you as 'agnostic'. I have many friends in that camp who are deep and intelligent people. <br /><br />"I do believe there is more to life than mathematics,"<br /><br />Well, mathematics is an important part of our reasoning, but certainly not all. I agree with you as far as that goes. Math (and language) is also a BIG problem for hard Atheists - as it is IMMATERIAL.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-4032861045733306742012-06-12T11:28:48.804-04:002012-06-12T11:28:48.804-04:00Michael might think that because I’m an atheist, I...Michael might think that because I’m an atheist, I engage in promiscuous sex with goats, but he’s off, real off. Michael thinks all atheists are monsters, but he’s dead wrong. <br /><br />By the way, there’s one thing I would like to clarify with you CrusadeRex. I’m not sure how to classify myself, I’m not religious, but I’m not sure I’m an atheist either. I do believe there is more to life than mathematics, but I do not believe in the church, any church, much less the Catholic church. I’ve seen up front the monstrosity of what Christianity is, and I do want that for my children.Iko Ouro Pretohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04599830041028902667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-91108693947285049692012-06-12T11:13:22.181-04:002012-06-12T11:13:22.181-04:00CrusadRex,
You say ‘Also they should be taught th...CrusadRex,<br /><br />You say ‘Also they should be taught that childbearing is a gift - not a risk or curse. It is a gift to be cherished and only shared with a loving partner.’<br /><br />I agree.<br /><br />‘Women need to understand they are MORE than simply sex objects, and that reciprocating the pig like behaviour of young males they simply become what they (the suffragists and real feminists) fought against.’<br /><br />A pig like behaviour is a pig like behaviour. I’m against that for girls or boys. I brought up my two boys to be gentlemen, and they are. <br /><br />'Girl Power' as it was once known is a prime example. In order for girls to be 'free' they dress like cheap whores. GIRLS, not women.’<br /><br />Why ? You’re giving an extreme example. Yes, some girls dress and possibly act like whores, but not all, and certainly not those in my circle. <br /><br />I also have a young adult boy, now 25, and I’ve met his friends, girls and boys, and no, the girls are not whores. Far from it, they dress sexy, just like the boys, and have fun, just like the boys. A young girl has just as much right to have an intense sexual life as the boys do. Why should it be otherwise ?Iko Ouro Pretohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04599830041028902667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-16166381555571826072012-06-12T09:22:43.538-04:002012-06-12T09:22:43.538-04:00Iko,
I, for one, am not trying to stop people fro...Iko, <br />I, for one, am not trying to stop people from having promiscuous sex. I am simply pointing out that it is immoral and self destructive. I have a problem with people trying to teach MY children that it is okay. <br />That it is the problem. <br />I would LIKE them to stop rutting like animals, but that is their own business. When they push that behaviour on my kids, it becomes MY business. <br />I see this in the same light I see morbid obesity, bulimia, chain smoking, or other compulsions. <br />Women need to understand they are MORE than simply sex objects, and that reciprocating the pig like behaviour of young males they simply become what they (the suffragists and real feminists) fought against. <br />Also they should be taught that childbearing is a gift - not a risk or curse. It is a gift to be cherished and only shared with a loving partner. <br /><br />I see this whole 'safe sex' line as a means to divert women and con them. It is a classic example of the Hegelian dialectic. <br /><br />I would use an example of the Hegelian nature of the 'rights' BS we are all being fed. <br /><br />'Girl Power' as it was once known is a prime example. In order for girls to be 'free' they dress like cheap whores. GIRLS, not women. How does this advance them? Sold as some sort of protest, they are reduced to sex objects in the eyes of their male peers. Sex for power or recognition is not exactly the ideal for women, is it? I sure don't think so as a man, a father, a husband, or an uncle. <br /><br />My first son, now a university student, was very recently a high school senior. During that time I was very involved in his school. During this time I became quite aware that boys now generally only date girls they know will 'put out'. Girls react accordingly to snag the boy they like. <br />This is freedom? Of course not, but it sure sells. <br /><br />The dialectic: Abstinence + Promiscuity = Synthesis ('safe sex').Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-7384303168764773882012-06-12T08:58:26.120-04:002012-06-12T08:58:26.120-04:00"I include one night stands in recreational s..."I include one night stands in recreational sex."<br />Well then, that form of recreational sex is immoral. It can result in a pregnancy (a new life) between two people who do not love each other. Further it results in the spread of disease - with or without contraception. Think new spread of oral syphilis for an example. <br /><br />"I guess you were once a college student and had the occasional one night stand. Did that do any harm?"<br />More than once, actually. I hold letters from more than one university, as well as the RMC.<br />But, no one night stands - not in college. I was in my late 20's at that point (poor, you see) and was already married. <br />I was much younger than that when I indulged in promiscuity. So were most of my friends, and many of my peers. <br />And to answer your question: Yes, it did do harm. When in high school, for example, I knew a girl (through the guy) who killed herself after being dumped after a fling. She threw herself of a bridge into traffic and left a note. She was 17 and a really nice kid who was dumped, ridiculed, and laughed at by people who she thought were her friends and a guy she felt she was in love with. There were other problems too. People I knew who ended up with STD's (after using a rubber), teen girls who ended up pregnant (while on the pill), abortions, broken friendships, fights, even an expulsion. <br /><br />"I strongly suspect that such experiences and the improvement of sexual techniques enrich the sexual life with one's permanent partner later on. Wouldn't you agree?"<br />No. Sex is instinctive and there is plenty of literature and pornography to 'educate' the horny young mind in this matter. Talking to and love play with your partner also works (ie asking her/him what they like.) I do not think one night stands have any educational value other than as a contrast to the moral behaviour. <br /><br />"Contraception is a great tool to prevent pregnancy of women that are not ready for motherhood yet, but who do want to enjoy safe sex. "<br />Well, see I HALF agree with you here. I agree it is a great tool for women to help avoid pregnancy, but I do not think sex is ever 'safe'. By this I mean that there is no way to make promiscuous sex safe physically, emotionally, or morally. <br />There is no device that is 100% safe for diseases, and certainly there is no obsession or heartbreak proof devices. <br /><br />"Oleg has a PhD. You must have figured out by now that he is a physics professor."<br />I know he is an intelligent, educated guy. I know his field is NOT philosophy. As for his exact tenure or work - he has not revealed it here, and even if I did know (or had deduced) it is not my place to divulge his identity. He is anonymous for a reason - as am I. I respect that. <br /><br />"What do you think "Ph.D." stands for?"<br />There are plenty of people who hold doctorates that did not major in Philosophy. The reference to P is the same as when we refer to 'the natural philosophy' which is, of course, science. <br />TBH, I think calling Oleg a professor of philosophy would probably result in a negative response from Oleg :P <br />Call me a professor in Law for the same result. <br /><br />"I'm Troy (PhD, Professor), Crusader."<br />Pleased to meet you, Troy. what do you teach/study? <br /><br />PS. <br />Perhaps you would do me and the others the courtesy of signing your name (eve with a T or something) so we know who we are conversing with? There is so many Anonymous posters on blogger, and many of them are just trolls and lunatics, you see. It would be nice to know you are you! <br />Cheers.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739783974158130525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-44831003037635879712012-06-12T03:22:51.021-04:002012-06-12T03:22:51.021-04:00take also note that in the last years sexual inter...take also note that in the last years sexual intercourses among non married youngs aged 15-19 are falling and that teens wait longer to have sex:<br />http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2012/04/16.png<br /><br />this of course influences teenage pregnancies.Domicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02108175024624509183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-48042776197769309782012-06-12T02:56:13.664-04:002012-06-12T02:56:13.664-04:00could you remove from the data the married women?
...could you remove from the data the married women?<br />or could you say to the Guttmacher Institute (affilied with Planned Parenthood) to remove them?Domicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02108175024624509183noreply@blogger.com