tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post6460106121651528773..comments2024-03-16T05:00:38.826-04:00Comments on Egnorance: Gay scouts were never "banned".mregnorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-58763273584480755452019-10-15T21:49:11.551-04:002019-10-15T21:49:11.551-04:00"Gays were and are everywhere in scouting. Th..."Gays were and are everywhere in scouting. There are gay teens, gay scoutmasters, gay administrators. Millions of gays have passed through the scout ranks during the past century. They have not been harassed. And they have been, overwhelmingly, fine scouts and scoutmasters and administrators."<br />And my Dad works at Nintendo! <br /><br />"The lavender totalitarians now have their nose under the tent door. It looks like it's working out well in the military. Why not try it on kids?"<br />Let's see, most perpetrators were straight looking to attack effeminate people...or those they considered as such...https://www.army.mil/article/166188/male_hazing_most_common_type_of_sexual_assault_expert_reveals<br /><br />"Not about learning to put on a condom or to be open to the gay (or straight or whatever) lifestyle."<br />That isn't the purpose of removing this ban...<br /><br />"It was a fine version of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", and it has worked remarkably well for a century."<br />That didn't work either: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://centerforinquiry.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/dont-ask-dont-tell.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj1lNz6prrkAhUYJzQIHZB8CBQ4ChAWMAJ6BAgJEAE&usg=AOvVaw21THfeZrYJ8ddM-QyryQ-k<br /><br />"The real ban was on the gay agenda, and there was a corresponding ban (unwritten but quite firm) on the straight agenda. Sexuality was simply not a part of scouting. School, not scouts, is where your twelve-year old will learn to put a condom on a banana"<br />That's not what they said.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Scouts_of_America_membership_controversies#Position_on_homosexuality<br /><br />Oh and it was used as an excuse to protect molesters: https://www.guernicamag.com/when-we-let-our-scouts-get-raped/Ryu238https://www.blogger.com/profile/10011281472578951724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-42307326696547290552013-06-07T12:38:47.412-04:002013-06-07T12:38:47.412-04:00I was a Scout from age 11 to 18; I made Eagle rank...I was a Scout from age 11 to 18; I made Eagle rank and was inducted into the Order of the Arrow.<br /><br />What you've said in this post matches my experience.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-55151480415467073072013-06-06T15:40:31.341-04:002013-06-06T15:40:31.341-04:00Any part, apparently. ;-)Any part, apparently. ;-)Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan Navynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-85532842879803144812013-06-06T13:26:24.273-04:002013-06-06T13:26:24.273-04:00I made the situation very clear. There are million...I made the situation very clear. There are millions of gays who have been in scouting at all levels, without any adverse action taken against them. <br /><br />The ban was on paper, an early and very effective version of 'don't ask don't tell'. <br /><br />What part of that crushingly obvious point don't you get? <br /><br />mregnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431770851694587832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555199390227912207.post-68760108322541807982013-06-06T12:25:24.729-04:002013-06-06T12:25:24.729-04:00The ultimate denial: there was no ban, it was inef...The ultimate denial: there was no ban, it was ineffective, and it was a good thing they were banned anyway. <br /><br />Lest the onlookers accuse me of putting words in Egnor's mouth, here are his own words: <br /><br /><i><br />Gay scouts were never "banned".<br /><br />The Scout ban on gays was never enforced in any meaningful way.<br /><br />But the ban was very important, and a very good thing.<br /></i> <br /><br />HooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com