A real jaw-dropper by
This is really getting old. The leftie media is simply working for Obama 24/7. Monica Lewinsky is a duffer compared to the services these guys are providing to the president.
These hacks are not journalists. Thanks to the conservative blogsphere and Fox and the growing public awareness of media corruption, they're getting caught now each time they do it.
Payback is coming, in November for Obama. And ratings and revenues are collapsing for leftie media. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys.
But remember, Fox News never ever does anything remotely similar. That is why that paragon of fairness and honesty, Egnor, never criticizes Fox News.
ReplyDeleteI also watched the Duckworth video and didn't see the deceptive editing.
DeleteBut of course you're stooping to a "two wrongs make a right" argument. And it's really, really sad.
JQ
There was nothing deceptive at all about the Napalitano clip.
DeleteI read the commentary about it. The "deceptive" part was that it was supposedly edited to show that Obama can't give tax cuts to the rich, when what he really meant is that he can't give tax cuts to the rich and lower the deficit.
I didn't get the idea from the quote that it's outside of his dictatorial powers not to give a tax cut to the rich. He does whatever he pleases, of course he can do that. What he meant by "can't" is that it would be irresponsible to do so.
Ergo, no deception.
JQ
But of course you're stooping to a "two wrongs make a right" argument. And it's really, really sad.
DeleteLiar. (Why am I not surprised?) I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of Egnor, not justifying the rightness or wrongness of anything.
But we all already know that Egnor is a hypocrite.
Yes, you are making the two wrongs make a right argument.
Delete"Fox does it too!"
I don't even accept that Fox does it too. I can't conclude that from the two lame examples your provided. But guess what? Even if Fox did it too, it wouldn't mean much.
MSNBC lying isn't excused by Fox lying. One has nothing to do with the other.
Let me ask you this. Do you cruise around left wing websites and find examples of Fox News's supposed lies, and then say "MSNNC does it too!"?
This is the silly game that too many people play. When they get caught doing something they can't defend, they fall back on "the other side did it too." Which is a two wrongs make a right argument.
JQ
The context of the Duckworth video was hard to understand.
DeleteThe video with the judge criticizing Obama for his attitude toward private property and taxes was spot on. Yes, I understood that Obama wasn't literally saying that he can't give a tax cut to the rich. He could, but it wouldn't be the right thing to do, in Obama's estimation.
Deceptive editing leaves the viewer with the wrong impression. I didn't get the wrong impression from the second clip, so I don't think it qualifies as deceptive editing.
TRISH
Anonymous,
DeleteI assume I'm speaking to Aaron Anonymous, the supposed government lawyer.
It's very difficult to have dialogue when you continue to characterize all differences in opinion as "lies."
JQ did not lie when he said that you are making an argument that relies on two wrongs making a right. MSNBC deceptively edited the video which is unacceptable journalism. They did the same thing two months ago with the George Zimmerman call to 911. That was just atrocious.
Such examples of bad journalism can't be defended, nor should they be. Your only defense is that another network--the one that you hate--does it too.
You sound like my elementary aged kids. "But he did it too!" "She did this last week!"
If anything, they're BOTH wrong. Fox doesn't excuse MSNBC and MSNBC doesn't excuse Fox. Dishonesty doesn't provide cover more dishonesty.
That being said, I don't see the comparison here between the two. The deception at MSNBC is apparent, whereas the deception at Fox seems contrived.
To say that you are using a "two wrongs make a right" argument is not a lie. It's JQ's opinion, and mine as well. If you disagree, try another tactic. Rather than calling JQ a liar, try to clarify what you really meant, and distinguish it from the apparent "two wrongs make a right" argument that we both detected in your statement.
TRISH
I assume I'm speaking to Aaron Anonymous, the supposed government lawyer.
DeleteNo, you're not. But speaking from ignorance seems to be your stock in trade.
I looked at the examples you gave. I'm not sure if the editing is deceptive. If it is, it is wrong, right or left.
ReplyDeleteThe leftie deception is endemic and massive. It involves the "straight" news, not just the opinion programs. The bias and dishonesty is obvious.
In the case of the criminal editing of the Zimmerman 9-11 tape, the liberal media actually tried to inspire violence.
The rightie deception is endemic and massive. It involves the "straight" news, not just the opinion programs. The bias and dishonesty is obvious.
ReplyDeleteThe panda deception is endemic and massive. It involves the "Ailuropoda" news, not just the opinion programs. The bias and dishonesty is obvious.
DeleteCan we sign our own names here? Anonymous vs Anonymous vs Anonymous makes it really hard to follow the conversation.
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