PZ Myers:
A warning
Here’s another challenge for the growing atheist movement: can we avoid the trap of charismatic leadership and the cult of personality? As church attendance declines (a good thing), as pastors wake up and realize their faith was a lie (a very good thing), and as we try to embrace even church leaders who want to join the secular movement, we have to beware of the temptation to just put them to work doing the same old thing they’re familiar with, in atheist “churches”...
What we need to construct are egalitarian institutions that do not simply co-opt the corrupt schema of existing religious institutions. We should be modeling democratic political forms rather than buying into destructive ecclesiastical patterns of organization.
Heh.
Myers is the undisputed leader of one of the largest and most malevolent atheist cults, if you don't count the various People's Democratic Republics that have inspired humanity for a century. Myers directs his Pharynguloids to crash on-line polls, swarm Darwinian skeptics, and generally spur atheist fundamentalism on a regular basis. Like any cult leader worth his salt, he has even accused a rival atheist cult leader of anonymous/undocumented sex crimes.
As for Dear Leader's exhortation to "[model] democratic political reforms rather than buying into destructive ecclesiastical patterns of organization.", it's worth pointing out that limited government ("render unto Caesar") and the inviolable worth of each human being and the primacy of conscience are Christian "ecclesiastical patterns of organization" that date back 2000 years.
Atheist "democratic political forms" would be a welcome novelty. Every atheist government in human history has been totalitarian hellhole, ruled largely by atheist cult leaders.
it's worth pointing out that limited government ("render unto Caesar") and the inviolable worth of each human being and the primacy of conscience are Christian "ecclesiastical patterns of organization" that date back 2000 years.
ReplyDeleteHahaha. Racketeering, rape and genocide you mean. The Roman Catholic Church has more blood on its hands than any other organization in history, by a very very long shot.
The Church hierarchy has certainly been involved in its share of crimes. More than any other organization in history is questionable, but possible considering that the Catholic Church has been around for 2000 years and is represented by prelates throughout the globe, not all of whom are or were saints. Unlikely, but possible. However, looking at any equivalent time frame, the Church fares much better than the above-mentioned dictators, and even better than the U.S. Government.
DeleteNever let the facts get in the way of a hate campaign, eh Dhim One?
ReplyDeleteEgnor: "Myers is the undisputed leader of one of the largest and most malevolent atheist cults..."
ReplyDeleteTranslation: "Myers's blog is way more popular than mine."
Hoo
And "Twilight" is more "popular" than Hamlet.
DeleteI guess that's what makes you Elite. An unerring sense for the common and crass. Right, Diaper-boy?
Own goal, admiral. I'm not the one envying Myers's popularity. Egnor is.
DeleteHoo
Only in translation from English to Proglodyte. But it was a sweet little squee.
DeleteI always find it amusing when theists disparage atheists for being like theists.
ReplyDelete-KW
As it turns out, I do too.
DeleteAtheist governments are all "hell holes?" Good thing we have Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Northern Ireland, etc. etc. to show us the love and tolerance of various religion based governments.
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