Thursday, March 27, 2014

Imagine... a world without organized atheism

I love Vox Day:


Vox:

What the godless fans of John Lennon always seem to forget is that there is a well-known place where there are no countries, no religion, and nothing to kill or die for. It is a very peaceful place, at least when seen from this perspective. It is called "the grave". And it is no accident that so many people end up there every time a utopian - who is often an atheist, but doesn't have to be - puts himself in a position of power where he can attempt to build a New Man, a New Society, or a New World Order.
It's not atheism that causes this lethal utopianism. But the observable fact of the matter is that atheists are particularly susceptible to it.
That correlation is one reason I take no prisoners in discourse with atheists. I don't care what they tell me they are. I can see what they've done.

Why is atheism so murderous? Vox' assertion that "it's not atheism that causes this lethal utopianism" is very important, and this observation, rather than letting atheism off the hook, is the philosopher's stone in explaining atheism's invariable lethality.

Why is atheism so murderous? The same reason AIDS is more deadly than typhus.

Atheism weakens that ability of a culture to protect itself from evil, like a virus that destroys the immune system, and it lets all kinds of evil flourish.

Atheism is a disease that kills your civilization by leaving it defenseless against all manner of evil. 

15 comments:

  1. I'd put Hitler on that list too. He sometimes posed as a God-fearing man but he wasn't. At least not according to Wikipedia.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

    "The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science. Religion will have to make more and more concessions. Gradually the myths crumble. All that's left is to prove that in nature there is no frontier between the organic and the inorganic. When understanding of the universe has become widespread, when the majority of men know that the stars are not sources of light but worlds, perhaps inhabited worlds like ours, then the Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity."--Hitler's Table Talk.

    Sound like anyone on this website?

    TRISH

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  2. Commissar Boggs, Ministry of TruthMarch 27, 2014 at 6:47 AM

    I wonder where they got the images for that poster. Probably the West Wing, eh?

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  3. AIDS is more deadly than typhus? Tell that to Napoleon's Grande Armee. I can now add infectious diseases to the list of topics you're completely ignorant of (along with history, science, the meaning of words, logic, etc etc)

    Atheism s a worldview - there is no god(s). To do evil you need an ideology - particularly one with the delusion of a future utopia in which millions if not billions of humans will be extremely happy. So that anyone opposing the ideology is regarded as evil and requiring elimination.

    Evil happens when such ideologies (Christianity, Islam or Communism) have absolute power and have the means to persecute their opponents, real and imaginary.

    There's nothing wrong with Christianity - provided it doesn't have power over everyone - not just its adherents.

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    1. "There's nothing wrong with Christianity - provided it doesn't have power over everyone - not just its adherents."

      Right. State-imposed Christianity doesn't have the cleanest record either. So long as the populace has a general moral consensus and sees the moral life as a good worth striving for, secular democracy appears to be the best system.

      The task for Christians is to bring people to the faith by making a compelling and attractive case for the truth claims of Christianity. One cannot understand the faith if one cannot fully and freely respond to it.

      Curio

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  4. I wonder though why Christians seem to have a near-monopoly on genocide.

    Rwanda - check
    Bosnia - check
    Holocaust - check

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    1. If we're interested in numbers, 20th century communist regimes were responsible for many, many times more deaths than your three examples combined.

      Then there's the question of whether Christianity had anything to do with Rwanda, Bosnia or the Holocaust. Adolf Hitler's own views on religion seem to suggest he wasn't motivate by faith...

      Curio

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    2. Commissar Boggs, Ministry of TruthMarch 27, 2014 at 12:23 PM

      troi is rarely in possession of even the most elementary facts. His specialty is trolling, pure and simple. He had a fascination with Emeritus Pope Benedict XIV's shoes, of all things.

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    3. I don't know how the Holocaust could have been perpetrated by Christians when Hitler was an atheist. I thought someone would dispute my point above but no one did.

      Bosnia? They were nominally Christian, I suppose. They were largely nonreligious after years of communist rule.

      TRISH

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    4. In some quarters, "nominally Christian" is good enough for a hatefest.

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    5. Trish,

      Hitler wasn't an atheist. He recognised a 'higher power' whose will he was performing. His survival in the July 20, 1944 assassination attempt he ascribed to divine providence.

      What makes you think that Bosnia was increasingly nonreligious as a result of communist rule in Yugoslavia? Yugoslavia was deeply religious after its formation in the '20s, but as it became increasingly urbanised after World War II (as with many other countries), religion became less important.

      Admittedly, Tito did try to suppress religion because religious differences (between Catholic, Orthodox and Muslim) were a threat to unity. Once Tito died, religious enmity reappeared quickly and Yugoslavia disintegrated.

      The Yugoslav republics fought on both sides in both World War I and II. The puppet regime in Bosnia during World War II perpetrated a holocaust on Serbians of unimaginable savagery.

      Australia in the '50s got a lot of migrants from Yugoslavia. The enmity between the different groups carried over here too, mainly along religious grounds - particularly between Orthodox Serbs and Catholic Croats - which extended to the formation of soccer clubs divided on religious adherence.

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    6. Pretty close Bachfiend....you possibly even know some Yugo people.

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  5. Commissar Boggs, Ministry of TruthMarch 27, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    Daily Truth:

    The UK's weather will become both too wet and too dry – and also too cold and too hot – as climate change increases the frequency of extreme events, the Met Office has warned in a new report.
    --- The Guardian

    But if the frequency of the "extreme" events increases, will they still be "extreme"?

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    1. But if the frequency of the "extreme" events increases, will they still be "extreme"?

      Yes of course, the father from average they are the more extreme they are regardless of frequency. To avoid the embarrassment of asking stupid questions you should look up words like “extreme” if you don’t know what they mean.

      -KW

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    2. Commissar Boggs, Ministry of TruthMarch 27, 2014 at 1:15 PM

      You should look up the word "variance".

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  6. A world without organized atheism... ah, if only.... I'm sick of atheists and their stupidity, bigotry, arrogance, ignorance, hypocrisy, and discrimination against everyone who disagrees with them. I'm sick of them pouring their crap on us and constantly shoving their belief's down our throats. I'm sick of them harassing, ostracizing, and discriminating against Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc. They do nothing to contribute to society. All they do is spread hatred.

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