Tuesday, June 25, 2013

Gosnell's blunders



An essay by Susan Berry about the three thousand people in the United States who have survived abortion:

Not much has been known or mentioned, even within the pro-life community, about abortion survivors--individuals who survived “botched” abortions. According to one abortion survivor, however, the Gosnell trial details have caused the “floodgates” to open for those who were meant to be dead.
According to Melissa Ohden, founder of the Abortion Survivor Network and survivor of a “failed” saline abortion in 1977, medical research, the increased power of ultrasound, and the painful experiences of women and men who have gone through abortion have all “made it very difficult for abortion advocates to deny the humanity of the unborn.” 
In her work for National Right to Life, Ohden discusses how the lives of abortion survivors are a “living testament to the humanity of the unborn.”...

Ohden says that many abortion survivors “live their lives in fear of what the culture of death we live in says about what happened to us (it was simply a choice, we didn’t have any rights, we were not yet human).” She adds that survivors of abortion also believe that they are alone, with no one to turn to for understanding. The reality that one is alive merely because of a “failure” of a procedure that was meant to take one’s life can be a daunting notion.

A "botched" abortion is when no one dies.

Can you imagine knowing that you're alive merely because the hack your mother hired to kill you didn't do the job right?

May God forgive us.

16 comments:

  1. Wiat, there are abortion survivors? I thought they weren't alive in the first place.

    There are abortion survivors and abortion non-survivors, but there are no meaningless globs of tissues.

    TRISH

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    1. Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan NavyJune 25, 2013 at 7:47 AM

      They magically become "alive" when the mother decides she wants them. Nobody really understands how that works. It's probably a quantum effect. Or some weird thing with dark energy. Or intelligent DNA animating meat machines.

      Don't question it. Serious people have decided it's above our pay grade, Trish.

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  2. Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan NavyJune 25, 2013 at 7:43 AM

    Melissa's video is here. It's very powerful.

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  3. Three thousand abortion survivors a year. Something tells me that the journalistic establishment would be interviewing these people on a regular basis if they weren't hopelessly biased. I just wish we could interview those who didn't survive, but alas, dead babies, like dead men, don't talk.

    The Torch

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    1. I'd be interested to see the source of the figure, given that it is more or less implausible. If true, it would mean that about one fifth of the post twenty week abortions result in a living child.

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  4. about America's three thousand children who survive abortion each year

    Found the problem. Egnor can't read. The article he cited doesn't say three thousand per year. It says three thousand total. The actual annual figure is about seventy-five per year, and that's an estimate that appears to be based on nothing at all.

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    1. Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan NavyJune 25, 2013 at 5:06 PM

      So... what if it's just one?

      But we certainly know the figure is much higher than one, using nothing but the Gosnell Abattoir as a basis.

      And if it's not a big deal, why did State Senator Obama vote 4 times against a measure that would prevent the murder of these children?

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    2. Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan NavyJune 25, 2013 at 5:10 PM

      Just to clarify the sense of my question, I was indirectly referring to this:

      [I]f there’s even one life that can be saved, then we’ve got an obligation to try...
      --- President Lackwit

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    3. Even the word "survive" is a bit hard to define. Most children who survive their abortions are then killed on the table right there. See Gosnell, Kermit. So does survive mean surviving only the attempt on the child's life inside the womb, or the subsequent attempt on the child's life outside the womb? Though morally indistinguishable, there are legal differences, from state to state.

      Ben

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    4. Keep in mind that the Kermit Gosnells of this world aren't documenting their survival rate. They're just flushing baby parts down the toilet and pretending the child never existed in the first place.

      There are however survivors. That's why we talk in terms of fetal viability. Viable fetuses can survive outside the womb, nonviable fetuses cannot. It's important to note that both are alive. That which is not alive cannot die, thus the question of survival is meaningless, since survive means to go on living.

      Now that we've established the existence of survivors, can we please dispense with the nonsensical talking point that pro-lifers are just obsessed with controlling women's uteri? We're merely opposed to murder. What's controversial about that?

      Ben

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    5. Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan NavyJune 25, 2013 at 7:26 PM

      Exactly, Ben. The survivors are simply killed. The ghouls who perform these murders are counting the money, not the mistakes.

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    6. Egnor getting the number of survivors of failed abortion in America confused with the number of survivors of abortion in America each year is important. It's an indication of failure to attend to the exact details, which is expected in a professional such as a neurosurgeon. Operating on the wrong side of the brain isn't just a minor detail.

      As a pathologist, the only time I was sued was because of a failed abortion. The registrar (your version of a resident) did a very timid D & C (virtually just a chorionic villus sampling) and I reported it as 'products of conception confirmed' (surgeons don't always submit all the tissue obtained).

      And then 7 months later... The case was still being litigated 17 years later, when I'd retired. And to my annoyance. It should have been settled years earlier. What's worse than a mother telling her son for 17 years that he wasn't wanted in the first place.

      The experience certainly made me change my practice. I look for foetal tissue, an if I don't find any, and the amount of products is inadequate, query an incomplete abortion and suggest a pregnancy test in a week or two.

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    7. So you're an abortionist?

      The Torch

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    8. The Torch,

      No, I wasn't an abortionist. I was a pathologist. I reported on the tissues taken from patients by clinicians. If I reported on a biopsy taken by a neurosurgeon, that wouldn't make me a neurosurgeon.

      I learnt my limitations early and went into a para-clinical specialty.

      Off topic: does anyone know the episode or series of 'Scrubs' in which one of the doctors was followed by the ghost of a patient he'd just killed through negligence on his ward rounds? I gather it might have been the pathologist because he became a skilled coroner, able to recognise cases of medical negligence at a glance, having caused much the same ones himself when he was a clinician... I want to see if I can get the episode.

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  5. Thanks to all for pointing out the error about the number of abortion survivors as per the article. I've corrected it in the post.

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  6. The real issue here is that the 'survivors' in question are victims of attempted homicides. Legal, clinical, and totally evil homicides. To address that is to expose the abortion industry for what it is.
    This is why these people are largely ignored.

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