Monday, November 4, 2013

"If abortion was really only 3% of [Planned Parenthood]..."

Wesley Smith makes an excellent observation about the blessed closing of the abortion crematoriums in Texas in the wake of the new Texas laws protecting women from Gosnell-like unsafe facilities:

Planned Parenthood abandons Tx Poor Women

Remember when several states sought to defund Planned Parenthood because they didn’t want public money to go to an abortion provider? Oh, the screaming! These laws were so uncompassionate, PP’s defenders screamed, denying poor women basic health care! 
Yet, when Texas law required that abortionists have admitting privileges within 30 miles of an abortion clinic–which would not in any way prevent the clinics from providing poor women ”basic health care”– 12 Planned Parenthood clinics closed. 
From the CBS DFW story:

Planned Parenthood will close a dozen clinics on Friday after a federal appeals court reinstated most of the state’s controversial new abortion law. The ruling from the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals late Thursday means that many abortion clinics across the state of Texas are required to stop providing the procedure immediately.
If abortion was really only 3% of PP–as the organization claims–would a safety restriction of this kind really force twelve PP clinics to close?  
Indeed, the question must now be asked: Where is PP’s compassion? Don’t Texas poor women still need basic Ob/gyn care? Don’t they still need access to cheap birth control? Don’t they still need breast exams? Etc. Etc. Etc.?

What is that old saying? Money talks? Killing fetuses is Planned Parenthood’s realraison d’ etre. The other stuff is clearly just veneer.
Wesley makes an excellent point. If Planned Parenthood were really providing mostly basic women's health care, why would a law requiring routine safety precautions (the kind of safety precautions that are universally required at outpatient centers were surgery is performed) lead to the immediate closing of 12 clinics?

Lying butchers. Planned Parenthood is about women's health abortion and money.


  1. PP doesn't do mammograms. It's a murder for hire outfit, plain and simple.


  2. If Planned Parenthood were really about women's health and not elective abortions, they would have no problem ending their elective abortion "services."

    These people are constantly throwing the red herring out there that this is really about OB/GYN services and breast cancer screenings. As if that's what we're really against. Nope. We're just against killing the unborn.


  3. Um,

    Wesley Smith quotes the CBS DFW story as:

    Planned Parenthood will close a dozen clinics on Friday after a federal appeals court reinstated most of the state's controversial new abortion law'.

    And provides a link to the CBS DFW story, which reads:

    Planned Parenthood will stop providing abortion services at four clinics on Friday after a federal appeals court reinstated most of the state's controversial new abortion law.

    Pick the changes. Were they deliberate and actually blatant lies?

    I looked at the Planned Parenthood website. In Texas, there are 48 clinics, 9 of which offer abortions up to 16-17 weeks. 4 (the same 4 above?) offer abortion referrals.

    1. To give Wesley Smith the benefit of the doubt, it's possible he was quoting an earlier incorrect CBS DFW article, and subsequently it was corrected to indicate that Planned Parenthood was complying with the new Texan law, and was no longer offering abortion services at 4 clinics, which however continue to offer their other services.

      It would be a pretty blatant alteration. Too blatant to get away with.

      Trish and Ben (and possibly Egnor) show confirmation bias though. The Wesley Smith article is consistent with their view of Planned Parenthood, so they didn't bother even following the links.

    2. Right wing articles often provide links to sources that don’t say what the article says they say. They look like they’re sourced but it’s for appearance only. If you see blue it must be true! I’ve seen many articles on right-wing sites where it’s apparent from the comments that the readers never made it past the headline, never-mind the links.


    3. Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan NavyNovember 4, 2013 at 8:49 AM

      If you want to see the cached page, look here before it goes away.

      However, I did save a copy of the cached page so I can put Popeye's comment and the original article side-by-side in my talks. Progressive are always good for a laugh.

    4. Meanwhile many of the right-wing commenters over at the Blaze are defending the LAX shooter.

      “Paul Ciancia may be the first POW of the new war in America. He is not a terrorists because he only targeted Federal TSA agents many who are armed”

      “Don’t believe a bit of it! Govt propaganda to make patriots look bad.”

      “it is the DUTY of The People to throw off such Government.”

      “OMG people.Another false flag people.Wake up and stay sharp.”
      “they are not officers. they do not deserve respect.”

      ” In am sorry he only killed one TSA agent, there are so many cluttering the airports and interfering with the American traditional air travel.”

      Much of what I haven’t cut and pasted here sounds like a less verbose version of what CrusaderRex regularly peddles.


    5. Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan NavyNovember 4, 2013 at 11:31 AM

      Well now, there's a classic change of subject. I love it when you squirm, Popeye.

      But taking up your comment at face value, how do you know they are "right-wing commenters" and not left-wing trolls like you? backfire, are you ready to demand some "eeeeevvvidence", or is your poor wheezing Rube Goldberg brain still stuck on invisible gorillas?

      Mobys (left-wing trolls who post supposedly "right-wing" comments) are all over the internet. The tactic is right out of Alinsky:

      “He told them, instead, to go hear the speech dressed up as members of the Ku Klux Klan, and whenever Bush said something in defense of the Vietnam War, they should cheer and wave placards, reading “The K.K.K. supports Bush.” And that is what the students did with very successful, attention-getting results.
      --- J Taranto, WSJ

      Popeye, I love it when you comment. Because, to quote Doug Ross, it's "like peeling an onion of fail".

    6. it's "like peeling an onion of fail".

      I have never seen someone describe their own posts as well as you did there.

    7. “How do you know they are “right-wing commenters" and not left-wing trolls like you?”

      They are some of the most prolific commenters on the site and it’s those that disagree with them that are ones likely called out as trolls. They live in a conspiracy theory universe with Beck repeatedly telling them to get ready for the fight ahead. They regularly point out they’re armed and warm that they are ready to take action against the government.


    8. Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan NavyNovember 4, 2013 at 12:27 PM

      So in other words, Popster, you just know.

      And I suspect the Anon posting above is out troll who can't read a graph. Did you ever figure that out?

    9. News flash. Everybody knows. You’re plausible deniability isn’t all that plausible. Even if they were trolls, nobody but the most progressive commenters disagree with them.

      It looks like the Blaze has dropped the story. It’s their typical response to right-wing terrorism “move along, nothing to see here”. It seems to have been replaced with a video of a woman being burned alive; the latest of an almost daily dose death porn from the Blaze.


    10. Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan NavyNovember 4, 2013 at 1:20 PM

      Popeye: "Even if they were trolls, nobody but the most progressive commenters disagree with them."

      The best thing to do is ignore them. Unless, of course, one has the time to bait them.

    11. "Much of what I haven’t cut and pasted here sounds like a less verbose version of what CrusaderRex regularly peddles."

      What you haven't pasted? What is it prose? Philosophy?
      Bloody fool.
      I have never and would never condone what that crazy kid did or anything like it.
      We are sworn to protect the FREEDOMS of our people as well as their LIVES. It is our duty. That duty includes lackies and shills like you.
      I simply object to a massive police/security state. I object to global corporatism (apparently you - mr 'lefty' - do not) and the inherently anti-human policies that spring from it. I object for the sake of my children and their children.
      I would like to see those who are responsible brought to justice, not see civilian employees of some security apparatus gunned down.

      Your attempt to connect me to those whack jobs and that murderer is beyond the pale. Totally uncalled for and not even related to the topic at hand.
      Your snivelling contempt is noted.
      It will, however, not be reciprocated.

      Instead I will note what the nature of the game was on your part: To divert attention from abortion mills in Texas being shut down by hurling unfounded, slanderous accusations.

      Pathetic. Angry. Child.

    12. Georgie,

      Your cached article has gone. What did it say?

      Crusader Rex,

      'Abortion mills' in Texas weren't shut down. Planned Parenthood obeyed the new law and stopped performing abortions at four of its clinics (out of a total of 48), while still providing their other services.

    13. Bach,
      PP are industrial level abortion providers. Mills. Four ceased to function in that capacity? Good riddance.

    14. Crusader Rex,

      Planned Parenthood has 48 clinics in Texas. Only a minority provide abortion services, and 4 of these have stopped providing abortion services owing to the new law, which could be appealed at a higher court.

      What do you define as 'industrial level'? Is a hospital 'industrial level'?

      Anyway. The facts don't correspond to Egnor's post which had 12 Planned Parenthood clinics closing completely, owing to the new law. None did.

    15. Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan NavyNovember 4, 2013 at 5:12 PM

      barkmad: "Your cached article has gone."

      No, it has not "gone". I just clicked the link.

    16. Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan NavyNovember 4, 2013 at 5:30 PM

      barkmad: "None did."

      You are flat-ass fucking wrong, barkmad. Are you capable of doing any research whatsoever on your own?

      Go here and click Progreso. The webpage is gone because that abortion mill is CLOSED.

      But I must remember: you are the guy who doesn't know the difference between deletion and compression. Yes, there is that.

    17. Georgie,

      Right. I've just clicked on your link again. I get the message 'Could not find the requested document in the cache'.

      What does the document state?

      How do you know Progreso provided abortion services? Just because the web page is gone, doesn't mean that the clinic is closed. It could be just a computer glitche.

      In my experience, when businesses, organisations etc cease operating often their web pages survive for a very long time after the demise of their owner.

  4. What next, a law requiring Women to cover their skin to “protect them from the sun”?


    1. Sorry, hard to tell the difference these days.


    2. Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan NavyNovember 4, 2013 at 12:29 PM

      Christians are the ones being killed. Islamists are the ones doing the killing. Seems obvious to me, but I'm not a Progressotard.

      You really are pretty thick, aren't you?

    3. Adm. G Boggs, Glenbeckistan NavyNovember 4, 2013 at 1:17 PM

      If you're right, we should try to stop them both. Correct?

  5. I'm sure we can expect to see rejoicing all across the land from "liberals", now that "Big Abort" has taken a hit to its wallet.