Opinions and musings on religion, philosophy, science, politics, and life from a conservative Catholic neurosurgeon.
What a big fat lie. Egnor has no shame.-KW
Where's the lie, KW?The Torch
What are you, Stupid? Let’s start with the quotation marks. Fluke never said anything remotely similar to what’s attributed to her here. Then there’s what’s in the quotation marks; there is no logical way to go from mandating that insurance plans provide hormonal contraception to “the government taking money at gunpoint”, or how non corporeal institutions like catholic schools are magically transformed into “people who have chosen to abstain from promiscuous sex”.It’s not only a lie, it’s a flagrant over the top self parody of all the bullshit spewed by Limbaugh and the like, and lapped up by hateful morons like you. Idiot.-KW
Egnor can't help but lie; it's in his nature. Remember the story of the scorpion and the frog?
Michael only repeated the image. What amuses me is that when he did invent a quote as coming from me, he claimed that single inverted commas are an American convention for a paraphrase (he used single ones) and not a direct quotation. Whereas, double inverted commas are an American convention for a direct quotation.He claimed that the American convention (and suggested that it's different elsewhere) is; single - paraphrase, giving the meaning, but not an actual quotation. Double - a direct and accurate quotation.The image uses double inverted commas.He's a lying bastard who refuses to admit when he's proven to be wrong.
This is incredibly stupid.
Pay for your own pills and rubbers, people. Don't expect the taxpayer to buy them for you. They're not expensive, and you don't actually NEED them.
Don't expect the taxpayer to buy them for you.And this is just a sign that you have drunk the Kool-Aid. Fluke didn't argue that taxpayers should be required to pay for birth control. She argued that employers should be required to provide as an option coverage that included birth control, which the employee (or student, as universities offer health care coverage plans for their students) would pay for.Egnor's repeated misrepresentation of the case Fluke made is just another in a long list of lies that he has parroted from the conservative hysteria factory.
Anonymouse:The Supreme Court ruled that the individual mandate is a tax, so indeed those who are forced to provide contraceptive "insurance" are forced to pay a tax. If it's not a tax, then the Court ruled that it is not Constitutional to force it to be paid. If Ms. Fluke wants bcps, she can buy them herself. If her need for industrial quantities of contraception bankrupts her, she can go to supermarket parking lots and beg...
The Supreme Court ruled that the individual mandate is a tax, so indeed those who are forced to provide contraceptive "insurance" are forced to pay a tax.And those who are forced to provide contraceptive coverage would be the person paying for the plan, which in this case would be the person using the contraception. No tax dollars would be taken out of your pocket.I know that lying and pretending that you are stupid is your modus operandi, but you think you'd be tired of it by now.
The employer purchases the insurance, and contraceptive coverage is mandatory. That's the reason the Church has a problem with it.Why don't you just face up to the fact that the government is mandating that people who don't believe in or want contraception are being forced to pay for it. That issue will be before that Supreme Court soon, although it may be rendered moot when your hero gets sent packing on Nov 6.
Egnor, you Big Ol' Liar! You're spreading truths that "liberals" and Democrats don't want others to know and understand -- which just proves what a Big Ol' Contemptable Liar you are! Really! Aren't "liberals" just the cutest little things when someone shines the light on them? I tell you, cockroaches have nothing on them.
I grew up in a neighborhood infested with cockroaches. We put down a poison, which kept them under control at our house -- in those days, you could still get an arsenic-based poisin called 'Paris Green' -- but, any letting up, and they'd be back in force.I don't know. Maybe that nasty experience as a child has affected may perceptions of "liberals".
Exposure to Paris Green explains a lot.
We put down a poison, which kept them under control at our house -- in those days, you could still get an arsenic-based poisin called 'Paris Green'You should have avoided actually consuming the arsenic. You might be able to tell the truth from a lie if you hadn't eaten so much "poisin".
Isn't that so cute? "Liberals" -- who will not think rationally -- are equating rational thought with arsenic poisoning.Unless they're just mourning all their relatives that we killed.
"Liberals" -- who will not think rationally -- are equating rational thought with arsenic poisoning.You're not thinking rationally. In fact, you are engaging in the most irrational thought possible: inventing imaginary positions for your opponents and then thinking you've scored some sort of point for knocking that down.But knowing what Fluke actually said would require some work on your part, and the arsenic in your brain makes that hard for you.
Again he turns "Why don't our healthcare plans that we pay for cover things that we need [even when those needs are for the non-sex secondary effects of the Pill]?" in to "I'm a big slut and the taxpayer should pay for my whorin' ways."That twinge you [hopefully] feel on the back of your neck is what's left of your conscience telling you you're arguing in bad faith.
Liberal Logic 102
Insurance companies aren’t balking because providing easy access to birth control saves them and all their clients money. Birth control is cheaper than abortions and babies. Not providing contraception would force your imaginary gun wielding federal agents to steal even more money from the poor beset upon sexually repressed prudes that want to make everyone else’s sex life as bad as yours.-KW
If it saved them money,they'd do it without a gun to their head. And if it saved Fluke money, why would she be demanding that others be forced to pay for hers?